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I found a 2010 service manual of the XT1200Z (616 pages, english).
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I'm guessing at least 5% less ponies.....HoebSTer said:it is going to be neat to see the differences between the Euro spec bike and USA one for emissions sake. I also wonder how many ponies they are going to shave off with this slaughter of the bike.
Yes, the days of new model US bikes being significantly down on power from Euro bikes are essentially past.fredz43 said:I don't recall ever reading that any of our models, such as ST1300, FJR were down on power from the Euro models. Matter of fact, I have read the opposite on some models, due to restrictions in some Euro countries. Have you seen dyno comparisions of USA vs Euro mdoels of anything that show ours are down on power? BTW, this would have to be done on the same dyno to be a valid comparison.
That's good to know. I was ASSuming otherwise.markjenn said:Yes, the days of new model US bikes being significantly down on power from Euro bikes are essentially past.
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It is my understanding that they actually have tighter restrictions than we do. It wasn't always that way, but I think it is today. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I know that my other two "world bikes" each have cats and such from being offered "over there" first, which made it easy for them to come "over here" with a minimum of changes. perhaps Asian, African and South American models are less restrictive, but I wouldn't think that Europe would be part of that list.HoebSTer said:it is going to be neat to see the differences between the Euro spec bike and USA one for emissions sake. I also wonder how many ponies they are going to shave off with this slaughter of the bike.
Best response so far. The regs are different, more stringent in some areas, less in others, but GENERALLY the last five years or so have seen Euro and US bikes in roughly similar tune with about the same power.RMac said:My impression is that US and European emission requirements are about on par. I would not expect significant differences. California may be an exception.
I have heard that form a couple of folks who work for Honda. The differences amount to some ECU map tweaking IIRC. This has got to be a good thing for the manufacturers, having several versions of the same model has to be a PITA form a parts inventory perspective. Plus it should allow for greter variety than we now have.RMac said:My impression is that US and European emission requirements are about on par. I would not expect significant differences. California may be an exception.
I just happened to find that today and was going to post it. The manual is 600+ pages long, just don't print it! ???Maurice said:You can download the service manual in enlish on the dutch (.NL) supertenereforum.
It is named #3 Handleiding.
Very usefull for all mechanical questions.
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