Seats: Who's making them?

Kevhunts

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I rode about 80 miles today with my old airhawk cushion in place and it made a big difference but, it's not the final answer.
Weighing in around 340lbs. I may be asking too much of the stock seat. I imagine it was designed for an average 180lb. rider.
I think the airhawk will get me thru this season and then I'll have Russell work their magic.
 

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I weigh around 190 and so far I am pleased with the stock seat and so is my wife. We like it better than our all day seat thats on our FJR.

I think the only thing I will do to improve the comfort is to fab some removable backrests for the long slab hauls. Looks easy enough to do for a insert mount bolted under the seats at the rear of each. The insert for the driver will be about 1/2" lower than the top of the drivers seat, just between both.
Mounting bolt positions already in place on the stock Tenere for this.
That's just what I need is another project. In due time.
 

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motocephalic said:
A Russell seat IS the benchmark of all seats. I know many many others have stated all kinds of conjecture about how "others" are good, but nothing comes close. It fits YOU perfectly, thats why it costs a little more, that is why it takes a little longer to get one.

The stock seat to me is a brick, and sadly, I will have to spend more money on something I think should be standard with this type of bike.
And there lies the problem with building a seat for the masses. The ideal seat has a foam compression matched to the rider's weight. That's why a very good after market saddle will be comfy for one rider, but uncomfortable to someone who weighs substantially more or less. In Yamaha's case, they must take the average rider's weight which will by no means suit all riders. To whomever made the comment about their tail bone hurts, you might want to look at other ergo's like bar and foot peg location.

I had Renazco work their magic on the stock seat pan of my small dual sport and the transformation was like night and day. I would say they are the 'Russel' of the dual sport world.
 
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I had Renazco work their magic on the stock seat pan of my small dual sport and the transformation was like night and day. I would say they are the 'Russel' of the dual sport world.
I have ridden a KTM 990 with a Renazco seat on it, and I have a Russell on my 990. If you are going to be riding a lot in conditions that you would be likely be better served by a much smaller and lighter bike the Renazco will be just fine as it allows lots of rider movement on the seat, the Russell is not well suited as a single track set. On the other hand if you are going to ride the S 10 in the same mix as the tires 80/20 pavement gravel, and are over 180 pounds I would suspect the Russell will serve most riders better, especially if you ride at all two up.

There is no comparison in the seat construction or suspension between a Russell and a Renazco, they are different completely different seats with different purposes in mind from design through construction.
 

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Tremor38 said:
And there lies the problem with building a seat for the masses. The ideal seat has a foam compression matched to the rider's weight. That's why a very good after market saddle will be comfy for one rider, but uncomfortable to someone who weighs substantially more or less. In Yamaha's case, they must take the average rider's weight which will by no means suit all riders. To whomever made the comment about their tail bone hurts, you might want to look at other ergo's like bar and foot peg location.

I had Renazco work their magic on the stock seat pan of my small dual sport and the transformation was like night and day. I would say they are the 'Russel' of the dual sport world.
To me, there is a huge difference between the two. This stock seat is designed flat, like a brick. I don't know of too many humans butts made that way. Despite a bike that is not necessarily built for value like this one should offer a "more conforming" seat for the 180#-200# rider. They bill it as an adventure touring bike with a 6 gallon tank. The seat does not allow you to ride tank to tank, let alone 250 miles without getting monkey butt. Yamaha makes cruiser seats both in Stratoliner and Venture categories that perform very very well out of the box, so I know they could have gotten much closer on this one.
 

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I have an Alaska sheepskin...and ride in LD Comfort shorts...and still have hot spots on my butt.

I actually think the seat is too soft...I've got 1,000 miles in and after 3 hours, I get hot spots. I had the same problem on my prior bike...once I put a Corbin on it the seat problems went away. I'm hoping I can last out until Corbin makes a replacement saddle...if not, I'll buy a second seat and Russellize it.
 

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I just rode 250 and had a sheep skin and made it. It was not great but I can stand it for a while. Guess it will have to do for my trip. Then she gets sent out.
 

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Just finished up 1352 miles in two and a half days, Deal's Gap, BRP, Cherohala Skyway, etc. Due to it's seat I'm gonna push back my Nova Scotia ride until early next season AFTER a custom seat is built. Aside from the seat bike was excellent. 8)
 

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I did 750 this Saturday and Sunday with the modified seat bumpers and an Airhawk and I will stay with the stock seat. I also have the 1" risers that help the creeping seat problem.
This is the bike that I should have bought 3 bikes ago.
 

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k woo said:
Just finished up 1352 miles in two and a half days, Deal's Gap, BRP, Cherohala Skyway, etc. Due to it's seat I'm gonna push back my Nova Scotia ride until early next season AFTER a custom seat is built. Aside from the seat bike was excellent. 8)
That is exactly what I am thinking as well. I am not sure if I can handle the seat. I have been debating inwardly for a week now. The Canada trip seems ambitious at this time given the seat. Undecided at this time, but that's running out.
 

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A cheap fix is to use an inflatable cushion made for hunters. I used one for many years before getting a used Air Hawk. Wing Supply carries them but I would think hinting supply places would too. It is "D" shaped and is sorta like a Thermarest pad in that is has foam with a valve to adjust air volume. IIRC, they run around 20 bucks.

HTH,
 

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Buckeye56 said:
A cheap fix is to use an inflatable cushion made for hunters. I used one for many years before getting a used Air Hawk. Wing Supply carries them but I would think hinting supply places would too. It is "D" shaped and is sorta like a Thermarest pad in that is has foam with a valve to adjust air volume. IIRC, they run around 20 bucks.
I got one once at Walmart (sorry, Bill).
 
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