OEM Oil Filters

[silvergoose]

I understand that this is an older thread, but I would like to suggest, putting a magnet onto the body of the filter. This an old trick, but it seems to work quite well. I use neodymium magnets, very powerful for their given size.

Good luck

 

[HBLQRider]

The Mobil 1 M-108 is a perfect fit and you can peel off the label making it all black in appearance.

I use the Mobil 1 M-108 filter as well.

 

[WJBertrand]

I use the Mobil 1 M-108 filter as well.

Exactly what I do! A couple $$ cheaper than OEM (but still not cheap) and a better filter.

 

[klunsford]

I may have missed something because I am old and hit my head way to many times, but has anyone run into the Concave Convex issue with the oil filters as yet?

 

[WJBertrand]

I may have missed something because I am old and hit my head way to many times, but has anyone run into the Concave Convex issue with the oil filters as yet?

With regard to the Mobile M-108, no issues for me and I haven't heard of any.

 

[EricV]

I may have missed something because I am old and hit my head way to many times, but has anyone run into the Concave Convex issue with the oil filters as yet?

It's been discussed in other threads. Most of the auto filters except the Mahl have switched over to 3'+ lengths and convex bases, making them not seal properly and have fit issues with some skid plates. I believe all of the bike specific filters are still fine and have not had a concave/convex issue occur.

 

[Kevhunts]

Exactly what I do! A couple $$ cheaper than OEM (but still not cheap) and a better filter.

What makes it a "better" filter?

 

[JRE]

What makes it a "better" filter?

...and how do you quantify it?

 

[Andyb43]

I have a Nissan short oil filter on mine. I work at a Nissan dealer and the short filter cross references the Yamaha. Works on some Honda bikes too. A little off topic but my KTM 990 Adventure was really picky and I only run the $20 oem on that one I have had 2 KNs turn the oil light on with timing chain noise on that bike. With that being said you cant go wrong with OEM.

PhD 10 what's the Nissan filter number or what model is it off mate?

 

[racer]

Let's get this back on track and answer the OP's question about the different part number on the OEM oil filter. The new filter part number is the same as the old one except the new filter has a different spring on the by pass valve. Mystery solved! ::012::

 

[JRE]

Let's get this back on track and answer the OP's question about the different part number on the OEM oil filter. The new filter part number is the same as the old one except the new filter has a different spring on the by pass valve. Mystery solved! ::012::

Someone actually answered that on the previous page but thanks for bringing us back from the brink! ::012::

 

[silvergoose]

Since Yamaha is not in the business of building oil filters, find out who is manufacturing the O.E.M. filter and buy that one.

Bottom line if the filter meets the minimum requirements use it. I would suggest putting a magnet on the filter housing, this will help trap and hold any steel particles.

Good Luck

 

[OldRider]

Since Yamaha is not in the business of building oil filters, find out who is manufacturing the O.E.M. filter and buy that one.

Bottom line if the filter meets the minimum requirements use it. I would suggest putting a magnet on the filter housing, this will help trap and hold any steel particles.

Good Luck

I know that just because a filter fits it may not work, so do you have a link where I can find out if a filter meets Yamaha's minimum requirements? I have looked on line and I can't find any charts on the specfications for an anti drain back valve of the releif or bypass valve. I know engines have a broad range of oil pressures and filters are built for specific engines, so this info would be very valuable.

 

[EricV]

Since Yamaha is not in the business of building oil filters, find out who is manufacturing the O.E.M. filter and buy that one.

Denso made the older ones in Japan. I had no luck getting a Denso distributor to cross reference a Denso branded filter to the Yamaha one in size, though thread fitment was possible. Problem is, the auto versions in the same thread are too long for some skid plates and some are convex instead of concave.

The current oem Yamaha filter, P/N 5GH-13440-50 is labeled "Made in Thailand" and also made by Denso. It carries a Denso p/n of BT115010-6371. Denso's own site does not show any Denso filter for the Super Tenere in motorcycle applications, even though you can select the Super Ten in their system.

 

[VRODE]

This size is the same as used on my old FZ1. I have been using Bosch 3323 (3") or 3300 (2.5") on the FZ1 but I have found both concave and convex fittings on them. It's almost as if the manufacturer just let them out the door like that and then later corrected the problem. I just check the fitting before buying them now.

 

[EricV]

This size is the same as used on my old FZ1. I have been using Bosch 3323 (3") or 3300 (2.5") on the FZ1 but I have found both concave and convex fittings on them. It's almost as if the manufacturer just let them out the door like that and then later corrected the problem. I just check the fitting before buying them now.

What I believe you are seeing is new and old stock. The current Bosch 3300 is 3" , (2.93), even though you sometimes see it still spec'd at 2.5".
http://www.autozone.com/1/products/158444-oil-filter-3300-bosch-3300.html

 

[WJBertrand]

I wonder if the problem is that the base plate on the Bosch filters can be installed in either orientation when the filter is being manufactured?

 

[EricV]

I wonder if the problem is that the base plate on the Bosch filters can be installed in either orientation when the filter is being manufactured?

Unlikely. In manufacturing of component assemblies like this the parts are oriented specifically to run smoothly in the machines. I'm pretty sure if a part was reversed by accident, it would jam up the system. Never mind quality assurance should notice something like that quickly, as it would stick out like a sore thumb.

We may never know why the filter manufacturers made the change from concave to convex. Maybe it's a response to a problem or some kind of attempt to reduce set up changes during assembly or just a conspiracy against motorcycle users that like cheap filters.

 

[Checkswrecks]

+1 to what Eric wrote. Because more than one manufacturer has done this and all at about the same time, my guess is that a standards committee made a change to their specification.

 

[Bryce]

Anyone know who makes the Rocky Mountain ATV/MC Tusk brand filters. I was making an order with them for other stuff and threw one in the cart.

Sane size as the Yamaha filter, but doesn't look to be as good a filter.

Yamaha filter was $10.99 from them, the Tusk was $5.99. I think I'll pay the extra in the future.