MCN new S10 write up

[Z750jay]

Just got the latest MCN for wifey(has a Rossi write up and she's a fan) and they also have a write up on the 2014 S10.
Never guess what they thought of it?
Yep the usual, lack gadgets, lacks POOOOOOOWER etc.
The review was strange as I have taken the current crop of Adventure bike out for test rides and could not disagree more with MCNs findings. I really feel they have missed the point. Even though I have only just run my 2013 in ( bargain reduction!) I did not find in lacking in power or torque.
I found the most incriminating part of the article was when they bemoaned the lack of power at 100mph. Hmmmm, it's not a bl@@dy sports bike!
One day we may get an honest review of a bike from MCN but I doubt it

 

[webbel]

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Agree with you .I dont find the tenere lacking at all.if I wanted thrills at 100mph I would of bought an R1

 

[rem]

Couldn't agree more, guys. I've learned to pretty much ignore these "evaluations". I don't know what their criteria are, but a lot of it just doesn't make any sense. It's hard to believe any of these evaluators have spent much time on the bike. I haven't read the article, but any organization that suggests a lack of power at 100 mph for an off-track, adventure touring bike, is being irresponsible. Their loss. Hard cheese. R

 

[barkingllizard]

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[BravoBravo]

I'm with you guys. My S10 has plenty of power for my wants and needs Best all-rounder on the market right now, IMHO. ::022:: ::008::

 

[GrahamD]

They said the same about the V-Strom. They were having a whinge about not pushing the envelope. Suggested a TLR motor would have been better.

When updating the V-Strom Suzuki actually targeted a lot of the things I was unhappy about (after riding it 2 years) and another 50HP wasn't one of them.

The S10 solved most of that when it came out, and how it worked at normal speeds I run at 99% of the time (not 160kph) was what I was after.

But anyway, Europe is the place where you get these 4WD's that have 30 series rubber, leather, carpet, gadgets, un-fixable complicated drive trains etc. instead of real 4WD's. They are fashion first and 4WD's in the traditional sense a distant second.

The bikes are the being pushed the same way. They really want sports bikes that are comfortable, because the Gixxers etc are too hard for their cashed up old bodies. And if YAMAHA wants a slice of that they need to do that. (a jacked up R1 with a lot of modes frinstance) like a giant mottard with a 19Inch front.

As far as a real world bike goes that is true to the old 750 Tenere design, it won't be much loved over there I suspect.

I am glad YAMAHA did an all roads Tourer, but it may be a fading segment of the market.

 

[snakebitten]

They're sissies.
They won't or can't go push it hard in the element it is designed to excel at.
Drag racing and track days are so NOT ADV riding.

Graham posted the only legit test I ever read. The guy thought the same things as he started his multiday test. But by the end of the test he had "lived with" the bike in the elements. Had a complete change of heart. Thus, a legit ADV test.

Regardless, the Tenere is in the hands of lots of ADV riders today. And although it has to live with the lack of valid press exposure, it now has what appears a steady following & adds to it's numbers daily. Slow and steady in so many ways. Lol

Morons.

 

[RED CAT]

Problem is they only compare it on the street. If we wanted another street bike we would have bought one.

 

[creggur]

track days are so NOT ADV riding.

Says who?
I'll bet this WAS an adventure on this beast...

I think it would be a hoot!

 

[mingo]

What a surprise.. the MCN UK guys did an ADV bike shootout a few years ago and declared the Multistrada 1200 the best ADV bike after a series of pub crawls, without a mile of unpaved roads ridden. They measure everything they ride by sport bike standards... they're sport bike guys and that's all they seem to understand.

 

[Mzee]

I won't waste my time arguing about some body's opinion.

 

[cakeboy]

i never take any notice of any road tests done by bike mags [ and mcn are always the worst ] because ive found over the years that what they say about a bike is s-o-o different to what i think when ive rode the same bikes ...they only have then for a quick spin or a blast down to the south of france on them ..the lazy bxxxrds cannot even be bothered to record the mpg and always put "about 40" for every bike .at the end of the day its just a job to them thats all . there not bikers ......

 

[Mikeybikey57]

::026:: MCN……………….todays headlines, tomorrows hamster cage lining and next weeks recycling.

 

[Little Legs]

I only go for the bikes that get slated in the bike mags.
Apparently my R1 is also lacking in power and cant keep up with the current crop of superbikes (must be a Yam thing)
What the mags need is a test done by a good crossection of riders that actualy dont feel the need to travel at 100mph+ all the time
What the S10 has done for me is that i can enjoy riding at legal speeds (ish) and still get the same buzz that i can only get on my R1 at almost twice the speed limit.
MCN get into the real world.

 

[MoFarkle]

I stopped buying the mcn some time ago as their journalism sucked balls, but due to train delays I grabbed one to fill the time yesterday morning and really wish I hadn't wasted my money.

 

[Z750jay]

Trouble is, real riders are out on thier bikes while the MCN tend to be written for the people who only do 2000 dry miles a year

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[RidingUpandDown]

soap on: ::009::

I think that going 100, in and of itself, is not that much of a big deal, BUT that getting from one speed/any speed to another, i.e. Acceleration, is the real thrill. Often written as 0-60, but for me anything in terms of acceleration/torque is a thrill, it can be 0-20/30/40 or 20-50... and the S10 has plenty of grunt/torque.

what's written in so many of these mags its like so many things that people take as gospel, like the nightly news, a DRs opinion, a political pundit, or any particular church or religion..., so many are in the business of making $/power/position off their opinions, which may be good for them but it is often 'slanted' and isn't always good/just/correct for the rest of us/everyone else.

maybe it because these guys are still in the old-school mindset that "doing a ton" is the be-all/end-all and what makes you part of the in-crowd.

i realize these guys must have something to write about, but to make up copy just for $ it's criminal really. and so they have very little credibility w/ me. these mags/guys should feature real-life DS stories/rides/bikes/people... look at all the great reading here and esp on ADV; what interesting/wonderful/fantastic/only-in-real-life crazy good ride reports, there's tons of great material/copy, from guys really living the dream, not just dreaming of life like so much of what we read in the commercial mags. and you don't think some of these guys are getting something from manufactures/vendors... to write this stuff do you? Naaaahhh.

listening to mc mags rail about the S10 is like listening to someone who buys a ds bike and mostly rides it on the street but argues that Hideneau K60 isn't a great tire. can u say poser.
soap off: ::009::

imhO

other than that i don't really have an opinion.

anyone seen my grain of salt? or my dead horse? ::001::

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[mugrunch]

MCN should do a long term road test, like 5 years. Where they have to get up at 6.00am every morning, do a 50 mile commute to work, in all weathers. Take it out every weekend for a couple of hundred mile run on all roads. Then take it touring a couple of times a year. Oh yeah and have to pay for their own servicing and repairs. I wonder which bike they would choose then.

 

[Rasher]

Utter morons the lot of them :exclaim:

I bought an ADV bike because I found my ZZR1400 felt dull below 100mph, and with the state of UK roads, the amount of traffic on any road capable of that speed and the likelihood of getting seriously busted meant owning the bike was no longer a viable option unless I wanted to crawl around frustrated, or risk losing my life / lcence / liberty.

The ADV bike switch opened up a world of relatively traffic free minor roads, back lanes and even gravel / dirt tracks, I went form the odd blast at weekends (normally coming home early pissed off with the roads / traffic) to riding almost all year round only not riding in the worst of weather, every ride is a good ride now - and these rides do not involve 100mph at any point.

I have a mate who instructs for the CSS, predominantly on R1's, but has also used S1000RR's and a few other bikes, he has won a couple of National Championships in the late 90's and was setting national superstock 1000 lap records when he did a few races back in 2005, he loves the R1 and reckons the S1000RR is not nearly as good on the track as it is too peaky, although despite being far faster than any MCN tester of the last couple of decades (I think Mat Oxley was the last MCN tester capable of riding a fast bike fast) they seem to know better......

... all bollox, they cannot ride any modern bike to the limit so put them on a dyno and / or get a top racer to lay down some track times and then choose the winner.

The fact they consider performance beyond 1000mph of any relevance shows how detached they are from motorcycling in general and the needs and wants of people looking for a particular bike, even with an R1 Vs S1000RR there is the valid point that most (99.99%) owners are unable to get within 20 seconds a lap of what the bikes are capable off therefore even if the S1000RR is half a second quicker with a top rider, there is a good chance they would be quicker on the more user friendly R1.

The speed / Lap time comparison is of some value to people buying these bikes as some folk just want the bragging rights - fair enough, it is their money to spend and regardless of if they still hold me up when I am two-up with luggage I have no problem with that, we all love our bikes and that is all that matters.....

But I doubt anyone who bought a Tenere did so based on post 100mph acceleration, and I expect very few ADV bike owners do - and if they did give a toss about this they would only be looking at the KTM and Multistrada anyway.

I gave up on MCN long ago, just so utterly crap, in fact most bike mags seem poor these days, but MCN is by far the worst.

 

[twinrider]

most bike mags seem poor these days, but MCN is by far the worst.

The US bike mags seem to understand Adv bikes. Their tests are spot on imo.