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[markjenn]

You're betraying our ages in "gyro-based. . . sensor" as everything is fast going MEMS.

Well, MEMS are still considered gyroscopes - solid-state gyroscopes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrating_structure_gyroscope#MEMS_gyroscopes

Variations have gotten so inexpensive and ubiquitous that they are in everything from cell phones to satellites. In motorcycles they have been used as the tilt kill switches for a while and it is now more than a potential input. Harley has been using theirs for the turn signals as noted. The new ABS systems are incorporating input from the MEMS package into the ABS and Bosch has been the leader recently. As you wrote, they are used to de-tune or fine tune the ABS control in a turn.

Correct me if you can show otherwise, but I don't think any motorcycle currently uses a gyro-based system for engine tipover cutoff as a simple tilt switch (e.g. mercury switch) works perfectly for this applications. Gyro-based systems are required for a sensor that detects lean while a motorcycleis in motion though and while they are becoming more common, they're still typically only found on higher-end bikes like the S1000's from BMW, the new R1s, and the KTM 1190's. The S10 has no such system, for example. The sensor may be very inexpensive, but the software that uses the sensors input and adjusts the bikes systems is anything but.

I'd be surprised if Harley has a gyro-based lean angle sensor that feeds the self-canceling function, but I readily admit I know very little about Harleys.

- Mark

 

[snakebitten]

I really like the current way that our 2 later model (2012-2013) cars\trucks handle the blinker stalk options.

If you commit to the full travel of the blinker stalk, you get the traditional and continual blinking until the wheel completes enough travel in the direction of the turn and then back to straight, thus "mechanically" canceling the signal.

But if you just "nudge" the stalk in either direction, you get a "timed" event for turn signals. For both the Ford truck and Cmax car it is 3 blinks.
(I wouldn't mind 5 or 6 to be honest)
I often use the 3 blink method and if perceived circumstances cause me to believe I need more blinks, I touch it again.

It would be cool to have the Tenere (or any street bike) have the same option. Soft travel of the blinker button for timed event. Full push past some detent for continuous blink.

 

[Dogdaze]

I really like the current way that our 2 later model (2012-2013) cars\trucks handle the blinker stalk options.

If you commit to the full travel of the blinker stalk, you get the traditional and continual blinking until the wheel completes enough travel in the direction of the turn and then back to straight, thus "mechanically" canceling the signal.

But if you just "nudge" the stalk in either direction, you get a "timed" event for turn signals. For both the Ford truck and Cmax car it is 3 blinks.
(I wouldn't mind 5 or 6 to be honest)
I often use the 3 blink method and if perceived circumstances cause me to believe I need more blinks, I touch it again.

It would be cool to have the Tenere (or any street bike) have the same option. Soft travel of the blinker button for timed event. Full push past some detent for continuous blink.

I think BMW were one of the first to initiate this into their lineup of cars, in Europe it's known as the lane / direction change indicator. But it would be a good idea on bikes too, I seem to recall that one manufacturer has it, or I may have imagined it.........

 

[Stridercal]

Mark, i'm quoting from the tech briefings here. This is the system used on the latest VFR800, CTX1300, Valkyrie, etc...

The ABS rings provide effective wheel speed change info, which the software infers to be turn stop and turn start as appropriate.

 

[markjenn]

Mark, i'm quoting from the tech briefings here. This is the system used on the latest VFR800, CTX1300, Valkyrie, etc...

The ABS rings provide effective wheel speed change info, which the software infers to be turn stop and turn start as appropriate.

I think this is Honda's grandiose way of saying that speed/distance (and perhaps acceleration) is an input to the cancel algorithm. BFD.

- Mark

 

[twinrider]

Harley Davidsons design team do come up with some very good ideas..........
They chrome all their parts........
It makes them easier to spot on the side of the road when they fall off.

Sorry, Harley doesn't take design tips from the British bike industry, which is why they're selling nearly 300,000 motorcycles a year. ;D

But it sure looks like Triumph is taking design tips from Harley....

 

[Stridercal]

Perhaps, but they claimed the ratios were able to inform the ECU of turn initiation and competition. It didn't work very consistently, in any case.

 

[Idahohigh]

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[Johnart47]

I am also a new member also and have just bought a 2012 Tenere. I am 68 and my K1200LT BMW weights 850 lbs has 106,000 miles on it and needs many repairs. It is also getting hard to handle.
I spent this past year riding a BMW F700GS which is one of the most nimble bikes that I have ever ridden ( I ride in the Smoky Mt. a lot )
I ran across a really good deal on my Tenere so I decided to give it a try. I am more impressed every time that I ride it. I believe that it is easier to ride slow than my F700. It may not be quite as nimble in the hairpin curves as the F700 but its more than adequate. My wife also likes this bike a lot so I have ordered GIVI bags and top case for it so that we can travel on it.
As for the windshield, mine is not stock and I can't find a brand name on it. It is taller than normal but has an adjustment to lower it about an inch, which I will probably do. For now I am not having any buffing and it is really quiet. Hope this helps
John