Sierra1,
This is precisely the sort of useless information that should be considered twice before posting. COVID-19 is life and death stuff, especially from where all the y'alls are, the number one COVID-19 country in the world by a country mile. Cubic country mile at that.
I know this is the lounge, but if I read somewhere that 'they' said the new Tenere was coming out with square wheels I'd be intrigued, google what square means and at least have some doubts before embarrassing myself saying: 'they say the new Tenere is coming out with square wheels.'
They they they.
For arguments sake, lets consider that all the 'yous' below have COVID-19. Maybe they got the test, maybe they didn't. Its a good test, I say GEDDIT. Maybe they had a test, maybe just tried the scarf. I'm not using a scarf.
If you are sick enough that you need a ventilator you have the highest risk of dying.
If you are sick enough to need oxygen, but not sick enough to need a ventilator then you have a lower risk of dying.
If you are sick enough to need to go to hospital, but not sick enough to need oxygen you have a lower, lower risk of dying.
If you are sick enough to go to a doctor, but not sick enough to go to hospital you have a lower, lower, lower risk of dying.
If you are sick enough to say "hey, I'm sick" but not sick enough to see a doctor you have a lower, lower, lower, lower risk of dying.
If you are NOT sick enough to say "hey, I'm sick" but sick enough to think 'mmmmm maybe I'm sick' you have a lower, lower, lower, lower, lower risk of dying.
If you are NOT sick enough to think 'mmmmm maybe I'm sick' you have a lower, lower, lower, lower, lower, lower risk of dying.
If you are NOT sick at all you have a lower, lower, lower, lower, lower, lower, lower risk of dying.
Remember I said all of the 'yous' have COVID-19.
Now the 'yous' above are sitting on a strata. Death can occur at any stratum here. Before posting a 'yeah, but I read about a death.....' please consider or use Google to to find what risk means. I know that deaths can and have and will occur at all or any stratum above but Checkswrecks doesn't like me or anyone calling anyone a completely and utterly brainless , lets say, numpty. So think before posting. 'Yous' are people/patients, call them what you will. They may find themselves at times going up or down the strata, day by day.
Sierra1, if the 'they' of which you speak are running your local hospital and you are sick enough to need a ventilator and they say "Lets save this guy. Instead of a ventilator, instead of oxygen, lets just give a gown that shows his butt and see how he goes", I implore you to go to the next hospital.
Consider the strata above. We don't need the 'they' that you try to quote, we can just use consideration and thought. We're all intelligent enough here to remember our forum password or at least have figured out how to stay logged on, so this should not be too taxing.
Consider for a moment that you or a loved one are at the top stratum.
You may be face-down and ventilated for a perhaps a couple of weeks. You have a breathing tube in your throat, but not necessarily through your mouth, you have tubes in veins and arteries and (can I say this here?) your weiner. You have things attached to you that make the machine go 'ping'. You do not eat. You do not drink (fluid in through the veins, though. Tops). You have probes to monitor your temperature. Some may be associated with the breathing or arterial tubes, but perhaps face down as you are you have provided another orifice for access.
Around you there is noise, voices and that damned 'pinging'. Occasionally alarms go off. Sometimes people run when that happens, sometimes they just turn off the machine that goes 'ping' as the alarm meant there was no 'ping' anymore. There are clipboards and charts, computer screens and 'tut tut tut' comments. Three or four teams of nurses, doctors, orderlies, cleaners pass through each day. There are many large yellow hazard garbage bags full of stuff that has been near or on you: contaminated gowns, masks, gloves, drapes, shoe covers, suits and more forming a heap in a dumpster somewhere.
Oblivious to all of this you don't notice that a few of your face-down neighbours are gone. Some get wheeled out with a croaky "Thank you" to the nurse just outside their now-empty glass box called "Bed 7" or something. Their nurse looks like she may be going snorkelling in the Bahamas."What's going on?" they think, "where am I?". But about a third of your neighbours left without a good-bye. They are the ones wrapped in a sheet, perhaps a "Live to Ride" tattoo peaking through the shroud. They died, buddy.
Consider that you wake up, croak "thank you" and slowly make your way down the strata.
I'm willing to bet that if a 'you' managed to hit the top stratum of the strata then that 'you' will take longer to recover than any of the 'yous' that never reached the top stratum. Its not complicated. If you only needed oxygen and your orifice remained your own, you may consider that you will likely recover faster. Makes sense?
Whats complicated is figuring out how the 'theys' of which you speak manage to adjust their car air conditioning. 'They' say that on a hot day 'they' have to set the A/C COLDER. 'They' say on a cold day 'they' have to set the A/C HOTTER. That does not mean that if 'they' set the A/C to 'HOTTER 'N HELL' that miraculously it starts to snow in Miami in July.
Read, people. Read and think. Think, post.
www.krem.com
covid19.healthdata.org
edition.cnn.com
