Kick stand so darn long. ?.

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My bike often feels like it's going to tip over to the right because the kickstand is so long. What up with that? I can't stand when it's too short, especially when the bike is fully loaded, but this is the other extreme. Anyone know of a solution to this?
 

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While there are variations in how bikes sit on the side stand, your suspension settings have something to do with this issue too. What year, model, (ES or Std), Super Ten do you have?

Has it been lowered or fork legs moved up in the triple trees?

What's your pre-load set at on your rear shock? (how many clicks from all the way out?)

Generally speaking there are more Super Tens with the opposite issue, leaning over excessively, than ones that stand up strait too much.

The short answer, if you've not lowered it or moved the forks, is to crank up the pre-load on the shock some more.

The longer answer, after doing some investigation and trial and error checks, is that there are adjustable side stands you can buy and you can shorten the OEM side stand by cutting it and welding it back together. The Gen I side stand is steel and easy to work on for just about anyone that welds. The Gen II side stand is aluminum and will require some special welding equipment to re-weld. The side stands interchange, so some people will buy the Gen I side stand, (cheaper), and have it cut down to work for them, rather than having the Gen II stand cut down.
 

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I will guess you are a ES owner ? In my opinion Yamaha engineering messed up the side stand issue on the ES model, most motorcycles suffer somewhat from sidestand issues but of all the motorcycles I’ve owned the Tenere ES suffers the most from the sidestand simply being to long.
My previous 2013 non ES was a little touchy but not nearly as bad as my new ES.
Here is a thread that hopefully will be of some help
https://www.yamahasupertenere.com/i...ay-to-get-ground-clearance.26852/#post-378237
 

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Keep in mind that raising links may help the side stand angle, but will raise the back of the bike and affect seat height to the ground as well. If you're not inseam challenged this may not be an issue. I suspect you may be, and have the pre-load on the soft end of the spectrum because it's more comfortable for you to reach the ground. But that's just a WAG, so please do clarify your situation.
 
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Thanks for the input!! FYI, I have a 2016 ES, and I'm 6-4 but shrinking fast. Not that heavy. I'll check out the preload, though that seems kind of weird to adjust that due to a too-long sidestand. With a Russell seat on it, it rides slight higher than the stock seat, so I don't have that much to work with wrt preload. My feet can get on the ground OK, but that's it. I don't like riding it too much in rocky, dirty stuff because the Russell seat just sucks for leg movement and easily getting my feet down.
 

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You get used to the RDL. I have had one for the last 120k miles or so. I slide forward if I'm in technical stuff and worried about getting a foot down quickly. I don't ride that much really challenging stuff though. It is a 600 lb bike. Two track and the occasional single track is about all I'll tackle.

Your issue is more prevalent on the ES bikes for some reason. (I have a non-ES, but also custom suspension, so it sits up more and I have more of the opposite issue.
 

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All the above counsel on preload, etc is helpful and accurate. My story:
I ground down the stock on my 2014 ES - still too much lean
I bought a Gen I steel kickstand - better, but still too much lean
I finally did what I should have done from the start: bought this and fixed the problem:
https://soupysperformance.com/yamah...-xtz1200-adjustable-kickstand-side-stand.html

On an otherwise excellent bike, the sidestand issue is just BS for Yamaha to have ignored.
 

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All the above counsel on preload, etc is helpful and accurate. My story:
I ground down the stock on my 2014 ES - still too much lean
I bought a Gen I steel kickstand - better, but still too much lean
I finally did what I should have done from the start: bought this and fixed the problem:
https://soupysperformance.com/yamah...-xtz1200-adjustable-kickstand-side-stand.html

On an otherwise excellent bike, the sidestand issue is just BS for Yamaha to have ignored.
Too much lean and you bought a Soupys shorter stand? For cbennett it's a perfect solution though.
 
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I've experienced this issue. I have a 2016 ES and I've found that if the suspension is set too soft then yeah it will stand pretty straight, I'm almost afraid to get off it in case it does fall to the right. Stiffening up the suspension or making the rear end taller makes the bike lean over to the left a lot more. I also put a larger foot on the kick stand which makes things balance a little differently
 

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It's strange that many owners complain of the motorcycle standing up too straight while on the side stand, and others say the motorcycle leans too much towards the stand. On my ES, it leans plenty enough towards the stand. Far as I can tell just set for single rider it leans over about the same as my 2012 did.
 

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It's strange that many owners complain of the motorcycle standing up too straight while on the side stand, and others say the motorcycle leans too much towards the stand. On my ES, it leans plenty enough towards the stand. Far as I can tell just set for single rider it leans over about the same as my 2012 did.
I've noticed the same. Somewhere in Japan is a poor engineer who had to guess the appropriate middle ground to shoot for.
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I will guess you are a ES owner ? In my opinion Yamaha engineering messed up the side stand issue on the ES model, most motorcycles suffer somewhat from sidestand issues but of all the motorcycles I’ve owned the Tenere ES suffers the most from the sidestand simply being to long.
My previous 2013 non ES was a little touchy but not nearly as bad as my new ES.
Here is a thread that hopefully will be of some help
https://www.yamahasupertenere.com/i...ay-to-get-ground-clearance.26852/#post-378237
I highly recommend this solution. Seat being “too high “ should be no consideration whatsoever when doing this modification. Simply plant one foot at a time. I never could understand why someone would want to lower a bike. Unless for a kid that’s just learning to ride.
 

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'16 ES. Yes, it does seem too long at times. This usually occurs when I have it set soft and the rear sags quite a bit. I have to remember to bump up the preload when I have luggage, etc.
 

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At home in my garage on a nice flat concrete floor the side stand works fine but sometimes I wonder if maybe the rear suspension is binding somewhere, seems like some days it’s much easier to get it on the centerstand than other days.
 
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