K&N Oil Filter Leak

[WJBertrand]

I read a while back that there was a run of bad K&N filters that would leak, not at the base, but at the top where the hex fitting is welded to the can. Evidently the welder settings were high enough to burn through the cans or heat affect the material enough that with pressure and vibration they later fatigued and cracked. Not very confidence inspiring quality control.

 

[Ramseybella]

I use delo or rotella 5w-40 also. To make a long story short, All oil regardless of what grade it is, does thicken up and doesn't flow as well when it it cold. This is why us northerners use engine block heaters, to keep the engine and oil warm so the engine oil will stay thinner and flow better to make the engine start easier when it is cold out. Many people mistakenly think that modern oils start off thin and then thicken up as they get hot, That is 100% wrong and the total opposite of how it really works.

I am not going to start another argument about this, you can believe me when I say I am educated on this topic. I will be happy to explain this topic further in detail through PM if you're up for it.

Either way, I still don't like the tiny slits that the Napa and Mobil oil filters have in the center tube. Motorcycle engines are high rpm engines and I want the maximum flow of oil through the filter at all times and I just don't think the tiny slits are good for that. I haven't seen the mahle filter, what kind of oil inlet and center tube holes does it have?

: Easy Hoss!
It was a question, not trying to start an argument at all nor challenging your intelligence.. ::003::

 

[BarkSlayer]

Can't go wrong with the OE Yamaha filter...and they're not very expensive in relative terms.

 

[Ramseybella]

Just to pass this along for $5.00 each.

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=15966.msg247845#msg247845

 

[KendallT]

Fantastic... heading out on a 2000 trip this weekend and just did an oil change yesterday; know what filter I used... yep, a K&N.
Then today I read this

Oh well, fingers crossed and an extra quart in the sidecase. I ran it for 15 minutes after I changed the oil and it was leak free...lets just hope it stays that way. I have always used K&N products in the past without any issues.

 

[Ramseybella]

Fantastic... heading out on a 2000 trip this weekend and just did an oil change yesterday; know what filter I used... yep, a K&N.
Then today I read this

Oh well, fingers crossed and an extra quart in the sidecase. I ran it for 15 minutes after I changed the oil and it was leak free...lets just hope it stays that way. I have always used K&N products in the past without any issues.

Your hitting almost what 100+ degrees in your neck of the woods.
You will be fine, it's not a FRAM filter.

 

[racer1735]

When I bought my S-10, I went out and bought all the 2.5" filters for this bike I could find. I found the Bosch Distance plus 3300, Purolator L14612, Napa 1358 and Mobil1 M108. Personally, I would never use any of them except the Bosch distance Plus 3300. The Purolator had the wrong base plate design and wouldn't seal but looked good otherwise. The Napa and Mobil had the correct base plate but the filter media was tiny and I did not like the center tube design. The center tubes on those filters had tiny little slits for the oil to flow through, rather than the big round holes that the OEM, Bosch and Purolator have. I just don't trust cold 40 or 50 weight oil to flow through those tiny little slits.

For me, The Bosch distance plus is the best filter. It has nice big round oil inlet holes, big round holes in the center tube (both should provide very good flow), synthetic enhanced filter media, a silicone anti drain back valve and main seal plus an extra thick shell and base plate that have a higher burst pressure than Purolator's regular filters. Best of all, these filters are easily available at any Wal-Mart nation wide for $11. I have compared these against the OEM filters and I would say the Bosch is much better. Unless something changes with these filters, I am going to continue to use these filters!

Great filter. But I found this weekend that Bosch is using a slightly longer canister for the DP3300....it fits, doesn't leak, but makes slight contact with an SW-Motech skid plate. The previous renditions of this filter didn't. So, no more using what was a great filter option.

 

[taskmaster86]

Great filter. But I found this weekend that Bosch is using a slightly longer canister for the DP3300....it fits, doesn't leak, but makes slight contact with an SW-Motech skid plate. The previous renditions of this filter didn't. So, no more using what was a great filter option.

I was using the Bosch DP3300 before I had my skid plate installed. I too now have an S&W Motech skid plate and only OEM filters work for me now. www.boats.net is the cheapest place I found to buy OEM filters. I also want to order the Mahle filter from rockauto one of these days to try them out.

 

[racer1735]

FYI - when I bought an OEM filter from the dealership yesterday, they were $9.95, which is $2 less than I paid for a DP3300 at Wally. So using the 'OEM is too expensive' ploy is just an excuse. Also, as mentioned in several other threads, the OEM filter is made by Denso, which is a quality name brand who produce filters for a number of OEM auto and motorcycle makers.
Also, a second addendum (big words!)....the Fram 6017A is manufactured in Canada, not China. I'm still not a fan of this filter due to the relative lack of filtering media (as presented by several who have opened the canister up), but saying its a piece of Chinese crap isn't true. Were it to have more filtering media, I'd gladly use it (I won't use their auto filters, however).

 

[Ramseybella]

FYI - when I bought an OEM filter from the dealership yesterday, they were $9.95, which is $2 less than I paid for a DP3300 at Wally. So using the 'OEM is too expensive' ploy is just an excuse. Also, as mentioned in several other threads, the OEM filter is made by Denso, which is a quality name brand who produce filters for a number of OEM auto and motorcycle makers.
Also, a second addendum (big words!)....the Fram 6017A is manufactured in Canada, not China. I'm still not a fan of this filter due to the relative lack of filtering media (as presented by several who have opened the canister up), but saying its a piece of Chinese crap isn't true. Were it to have more filtering media, I'd gladly use it (I won't use their auto filters, however).

Lets not forget the paper end caps and not metal that are glued to the filtering media that have come apart from time to time.
Reason I stopped buying the Walmart filters, the started to build them the same way at the end of being discontinued, now they are gone off the shelves.

Now can one say this does not look like a cardboard Origami toy?

https://youtu.be/XRRgw4B7R-I?t=20