K&N Oil Filter Leak

[RMZ466]

Hey Guys I need some help. I changed my oil and filter (K&N) and my oil filter is leaking. I triple checked the part number, put a little motor oil on the gasket and of course I read the manual.

What could I have done wrong?

Thanks in advance.


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[Harry Dresden PI]

I would take it off, clean all surfaces, re oil the rubber gasket, re torque the oil filter, and check for leaks again

Oil Filter Torque
12 ft lbs

 

[yz454]

The center part of the filter is not recessed enough . Had that problem with other filters that supposedly work . I use purolator only . And Napa will have the same problem .

 

[Ramseybella]

The center part of the filter is not recessed enough . Had that problem with other filters that supposedly work . I use purolator only . And Napa will have the same problem .

I have been using the purolator classic car filter since my Triumph 1050 Tiger days, same filter fits the Tenere.
Although its white I spray paint it black a few days before I install it, but that's just me. O

 

[HeliMark]

Also, double check that the old rubber gasket came off. Have heard of that a number of times, and will leak. I have caught on mine sticking on once.

Mark

 

[RMZ466]

Re: K&N Oil Filter Leak

Thank you for the help guys. I will do all of the above today.


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[RMZ466]

Re: K&N Oil Filter Leak

Update:
As mentioned previously, I did all of the above and then switched my oil filter to a Purolator Pure One PL14612 (2.5") and no more leak!

BTW: It has a wider gasket than the K&N and was on a list of filters that I found on this forum.

Thanks again to those who responded to my original post.


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[Don in Lodi]

The center part of the filter is not recessed enough . Had that problem with other filters that supposedly work . I use purolator only . And Napa will have the same problem .

I've been using the Napa Gold 1358 over a hundred thousand miles on two Yamahas.

 

[spam16v]

I have to verify, but I think it's the same exact filter as my wife's Honda CRV and my Ridgeline... If so, I'll be buying them by the gross.

 

[yz454]

Napa has three different filters in the same numbers .

 

[Don in Lodi]

Napa has three different filters in the same numbers .

Standard, Gold, Platinum. Unknown what the differences are. Oh, and yep, same filter as the Ridgeline. It's also used on some Honda generators.
Ah, Silver, not platinum.

 

[Ramseybella]

I pulled this list from my old Triumph 1050 forum.
Some are obsolete, as I stated the 1050 filter size is the same as the Tenere.
I don't use Fram filters trash!
NOTE: We also debated on fine filter media filters like the Pure One and Amsol.
Due to the fact the fine media and they could get clogged faster and oil will just bypass.
I just stick with my choice> Purolator Classic L14612

You could also cross reference these to find an alternative filter as well.


2.5" long filters -

Bosch 3300
NAPA Gold 1356 or NAPA Gold 1358 (motorcycle specific filter)
Purolator L14612
Purolator Pure One PL14612
Purolator ML-16817
AC Delco PF1237 or AC Delco PF2135 (motorcycle specific filter)
STP S-02876
K & N KN-191 (motorcycle specific filter)
Honda 15410 (motorcycle specific filter)

3.5" long filters -

Mobil 1 M1-110
Bosch 3323
Purolator L14610
NAPA Gold 1356
Carquest 85356
Wix 51356
Deutsch D-370
AC Delco PF-2057
Motorcraft FL-821
STP S-02867
Penske 7317
PL-14610 Pur-One Purlator oil filter


All these filters have 20 x 1.5 mm threads, 2.3" gasket dia. , approximately 2 3/4" O.D., a bypass valve of 8 to 14 p.s.i., and anti-drain back valves.

This info from an article by Mike Guillory entitled, "Oil Filter Alternatives - Honda Motorcycles."


http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html

 

[Checkswrecks]

From the list of maintenance and other parts here:
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1326.0



***NOTE ON OIL FILTERS - MOST OVERALL FILTER LENGTHS ARE APPROXIMATIONS BASED ON MANUFACTURER'S INFO - FILTERS MAY BE LONGER OR SHORTER THAN SHOWN***
Please make sure and measure any filter you may choose to use to make absolutely sure it will work with your bike and accessories, like aftermarket skidplates, without any interference. This is very, very important as some filters have been too long to work with some skidplates, etc. This list is *ONLY* a *GUIDELINE*, and I cannot be responsible for actual filter lengths as I cannot go out and purchase each and every brand, then measure it. When I can I will measure actual lengths of filters I have or obtain and post it here. It is up to you to measure for your own bike and accessories.


Oil Filters:
- Yamaha - 5GH-13440-50 (latest superseded part number - I have not been able to measure this one yet, but it is now the SPECIFIED STOCK SUPER TENERE FILTER)
- Yamaha - 5GH-13440-20 (2.5") - (actual measured length 2.631" (66.83mm) - THIS IS THE STOCK SUPER TENERE FILTER

- Yamaha - 3FV-13440-00 (3.25") - (actual measured length 2.851" (72.43mm)
- Yamaha - 3FV-13440-10 (3.25") (both of these are earlier, slightly longer versions)

Other Oil Filter Options
- Honda - 15410-MFJ-D01
- Honda - 15410-MCJ-000
- Honda - 15410-MCJ-003
- Honda - 15410-MM9-013
- Kawasaki - 16097-0002 (3.25") - (actual measured length 2.825" (71.77mm)
- Kawasaki - 16097-0004 (3.25") - (actual measured length 2.828" (71.83mm)
- Purolator Pure One - PL14610 (3.25" long)
- Purolator Pure One - PL14612 (2.5" long)
- Mobil 1 - M1-110 (3.25") - (actual measured length 3.383" (85.92mm)
- Mobil 1 - M1-108 (2.5") - (actual measured length 2.566" (65.19mm)
- Bosch - 3323 (3.25") - (actual measured length 3.550" (90.19mm)
- Bosch - 3300 (2.5") - (actual measured length 2.952" (74.99mm)
- WalMart SuperTech - ST7317 (3.25")
- WalMart SuperTech - ST6607 (2.5")
- AC Delco - PF1237 (2.5")
- AC Delco - PF2135 (3.25")
- Triumph Motorcycles - T1210444 (2.5")
- K&N - KN-204 - (actual measured length - to end of nut on end - 2.917" (74.11mm)
- Amsoil - SMF103 - (actual measured length 2.999" (76.18mm)
- Baldwin - B1400 (short length)
- Baldwin - B1402 (medium length)
- Baldwin - B1431 (long length)
- Mahle - 7620388
- WIX - 51358
- NAPA Pro Select - SFI 21358
- NAPA Gold - FIL 1358
- NAPA Silver - SFL 31358
- Nissan - 15208-65F0E
- Teleflex Marine - 18-7911-1
- Sierra Marine - 18-7911-1

 

[jimmy z]

Something else to consider when choosing oil filter is case thickness.I had very small puncture in wix51358. Mechanic in montrose told me if i was running yamaha filter,or one of similar gage, puncture more than likely would not have happend as case is thicker.I am running alt rider skid. Jim

 

[Ramseybella]

Something else to consider when choosing oil filter is case thickness.I had very small puncture in wix51358. Mechanic in montrose told me if i was running yamaha filter,or one of similar gauge, puncture more than likely would not have happened as case is thicker.I am running alt rider skid. Jim

Good point Jim!
When I had my 1050 the oil filter fits to the bottom of the sump pan, I was using the longer Purolator classic filter.
Well on day i was a little aggressive with the throttle and ground it along the top of a rock on a forestry road I thought Shit I just ripped my filter open. ???
It did dent it in and scraped some paint off grooved down to the metal but no hole.
I did go home and change it out but since then I have been using this filter.

 

[buffalodave]

Re: K&N Oil Filter Leak

Update:
As mentioned previously, I did all of the above and then switched my oil filter to a Purolator Pure One PL14612 (2.5") and no more leak!

BTW: It has a wider gasket than the K&N and was on a list of filters that I found on this forum.

Thanks again to those who responded to my original post.


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The Purolator PL14612 I purchased yesterday did not fit properly w/o driving the center section deeper with a hammer and a punch.
Seems like more and more filters are being manufactured with shallow center section, reducing the number of compatible filters.

 

[RMZ466]

Re: K&N Oil Filter Leak

I actually ended up switching the Purolator out for a Mobil 1.

Sorry I didn't report back on that.


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[taskmaster86]

When I bought my S-10, I went out and bought all the 2.5" filters for this bike I could find. I found the Bosch Distance plus 3300, Purolator L14612, Napa 1358 and Mobil1 M108. Personally, I would never use any of them except the Bosch distance Plus 3300. The Purolator had the wrong base plate design and wouldn't seal but looked good otherwise. The Napa and Mobil had the correct base plate but the filter media was tiny and I did not like the center tube design. The center tubes on those filters had tiny little slits for the oil to flow through, rather than the big round holes that the OEM, Bosch and Purolator have. I just don't trust cold 40 or 50 weight oil to flow through those tiny little slits.

For me, The Bosch distance plus is the best filter. It has nice big round oil inlet holes, big round holes in the center tube (both should provide very good flow), synthetic enhanced filter media, a silicone anti drain back valve and main seal plus an extra thick shell and base plate that have a higher burst pressure than Purolator's regular filters. Best of all, these filters are easily available at any Wal-Mart nation wide for $11. I have compared these against the OEM filters and I would say the Bosch is much better. Unless something changes with these filters, I am going to continue to use these filters!

 

[Ramseybella]

When I bought my S-10, I went out and bought all the 2.5" filters for this bike I could find. I found the Bosch Distance plus 3300, Purolator L14612, Napa 1358 and Mobil1 M108. Personally, I would never use any of them except the Bosch distance Plus 3300. The Purolator had the wrong base plate design and wouldn't seal but looked good otherwise. The Napa and Mobil had the correct base plate but the filter media was tiny and I did not like the center tube design. The center tubes on those filters had tiny little slits for the oil to flow through, rather than the big round holes that the OEM, Bosch and Purolator have. I just don't trust cold 40 or 50 weight oil to flow through those tiny little slits.

For me, The Bosch distance plus is the best filter. It has nice big round oil inlet holes, big round holes in the center tube (both should provide very good flow), synthetic enhanced filter media, a silicone anti drain back valve and main seal plus an extra thick shell and base plate that have a higher burst pressure than Purolator's regular filters. Best of all, these filters are easily available at any Wal-Mart nation wide for $11. I have compared these against the OEM filters and I would say the Bosch is much better. Unless something changes with these filters, I am going to continue to use these filters!

You use straight 40 or 50 weight single viscosity oil?
At cold start the bottom end number with dual viscosity oil is whats moving until it starts heating up. Reason I have always used 5/40 T6 shell.
So far the Mahle MC filter I bought from Rock Auto is doing fantastic.

 

[taskmaster86]

You use straight 40 or 50 weight single viscosity oil?
At cold start the bottom end number with dual viscosity oil is whats moving until it starts heating up. Reason I have always used 5/40 T6 shell.
So far the Mahle MC filter I bought from Rock Auto is doing fantastic.

I use delo or rotella 5w-40 also. To make a long story short, All oil regardless of what grade it is, does thicken up and doesn't flow as well when it it cold. This is why us northerners use engine block heaters, to keep the engine and oil warm so the engine oil will stay thinner and flow better to make the engine start easier when it is cold out. Many people mistakenly think that modern oils start off thin and then thicken up as they get hot, That is 100% wrong and the total opposite of how it really works.

I am not going to start another argument about this, you can believe me when I say I am educated on this topic. I will be happy to explain this topic further in detail through PM if you're up for it.

Either way, I still don't like the tiny slits that the Napa and Mobil oil filters have in the center tube. Motorcycle engines are high rpm engines and I want the maximum flow of oil through the filter at all times and I just don't think the tiny slits are good for that. I haven't seen the mahle filter, what kind of oil inlet and center tube holes does it have?