Is there a side stand replacement for a 19' ES ?

gapmtn1

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So every time I park in my garage unloaded or loaded I have to find the right op adjustment?
I don't think so, the fix is a different side stand that is the way I see it
The bike doesn't lean enough in any situation
Agreed. Pretty unacceptable for a bike that is supposed to have the ability to go "offroad", let alone the garage. I've set up my preload for riding, not parking,
Thanks, though, for some good suggestions here. I'll confirm my new-to-me bike hasn't been lowered, though I believe it hasn't. I like the idea of modifying the steel Gen1 kickstand (assuming it is a bolt-on replacement for Gen2)..
If my garage wasn't such a sh!tshow I'd take some pics of my bike on the sidestand.
 

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My 2017 also seems to want to fall over to the right if not properly parked. I make sure the handle bars are turned in the proper direction to allow proper lean for the slope of the ground, if any. What has helped the most is I put the heavier items in the left side pannier and stiffen up the rear spring . A while back my 5 yoa grand daughter was trying to climb on the bike from the right side while it was parked on the side stand and over it went luckily throwing her out of the way. I’ve. Never had this problem with my Dl1000 or any other bikes I’ve had. The crash bars saved the bike.
 

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Thank you all for your help
So, once again
Does anybody know if there are some aftermarket side stand for the ST, (without getting too technical), I just would like to install one?
Ride safe
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My 17ES sits exactly the same on the sidestand as my 2012 did. The stands are the exact same dimensions, just the 2012 is steel, the 2017 aluminum. Both mine lean too far in towards the stand if anything. This debate has gone on since 2012. Some sit too upright, some lean too far. Mine both leaned too far. No explanation or help unfortunately, just a strange thing to me at least.
 

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I would not recommend modifying or shortening the side stand in any way. If you don't want to stiffen the preload as suggested, then simply get a set of raised dog bones. Your issue will be more than solved and you can park the bike fully loaded in soft preload setting with acceptable lean.

I really like the modification. It changes the handling of the bike for a bit quicker cornering and gives it more ground clearance. I have no idea why but slow speed is even more stable. Use Pay Pal and it will change the currency for you. This is a solid vender and quick shipping across the pond.


Install is all of 10 minutes or less.
 

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Chris offered a good solution for some. The real question for the ES owners that have this issue is what suspension setting are you using?
 

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If you gave up, why respond? What an unhelpful post/person. And others like/ laugh at the post? Pretty disappointing to someone who is new to this bike and this forum. This doesn't seem like a non-existent problem (well, maybe it is non-existent for blacktop queens in the flatlands). There are other threads here about the same issue, with some nonsensical solutions like "I just circle around until I find a spot flat enough in the parking lot" or "I adjust my suspension every time I park".

I agree that Chris has offered a very interesting solution that I will investigate. I am 6' 4" and 175 on a good day, so less preload and higher stance should work for me. Thanks, Chris, for providing actual help.
 

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Woah now, easy there. I have you a solution. Did you Private message Tombstone? He has bought an aftermarket adjustable aluminum kickstand. He can give you a review. Manufacturer, cost etc.

He is a real rider though, and might just be riding instead of hanging around here just to answer questions.

Good luck with your search.
 
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EricV

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You didn't like the simple and obvious solution, to run more pre-load. Why you're fighting so hard against trying that is a discussion for you to have with yourself. Some riders have a flawed expectation of how this bike should ride. I don't know if you fit that category or not. Some will simply observe that if a bike is too upright, the pre-load is almost always too light for the bike's load.
Many new owners don't set the suspension up at all, never mind to their weight and needs, (sag). Ballisticexchris went to great detail when he bought his Super Ten to do this work, before he decided to go to raising links. (those discussions are on the forum somewhere) Raising links will raise the rear of the bike and will create quicker turn in. You may or may not like the results, but it's an inexpensive and easy thing to try. Slightly more expensive is the adjustable side stand. There are a couple of decent ones and a lot of cheap ones.

I've put over 150k on two generations of Super Tens over a ~9 year period. (a bunch of people here have many more miles than that) Like many here, I've ridden all over the country and in other countries. I have NOT had an ES and your issue is one mostly related to ES owners. My bikes have had taller seats, custom suspension and been run loaded with panniers all the time. Sometimes with as much as 11 gallons of fuel. Even stripped of luggage and running empty, I've never had a situation where the bike felt like it was going to fall over, on or off pavement. Anyone with off pavement experience knows you have to pay attention when you put the side stand down, not every spot works. "riding in circles" is a bit of an exaggeration, imho. But expecting to be able to stop anywhere and put the side stand down is too. I've suffered through my wife having this issue with her GS and 90% of the time it was her comfort zone, not the bike or surface, along with her running too light of preload for her load because she wanted the bike to sit lower, (inseam challenged). That bike was also an ES. Some people like to play with buttons too much instead of setting it up right and leaving it alone.

You don't have the excuse of being inseam challenged. You're skinny and tall, but that doesn't mean you're necessarily running the correct pre-load either. I simply don't know you or your bike and how it's set up front and rear.

Be careful about throwing stones when you're the new guy asking questions. There is a lot of experience here, so don't be so quick to ignore the basic stuff in the hopes of buying a fix for a problem relatively few people have.
 

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I've had this problem on steeply crowned road shoulders and sloped surfaces, but I would say that has been the case for every bike I've owned at one point or another. Can't comment too much on the stock ES as I've fitted mine with a stiffer rear spring. I don't recall this problem before I installed it though. As far as I know there is not an aftermarket stand available specifically for the Super Tenere. I don't know if a universal adjustable stand would work or not:

 

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The one I was thinking of is Soupy's LINK
 

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So every time I park in my garage unloaded or loaded I have to find the right op adjustment?
I don't think so, the fix is a different side stand that is the way I see it
The bike doesn't lean enough in any situation
Agreed. Pretty unacceptable for a bike that is supposed to have the ability to go "offroad", let alone the garage. I've set up my preload for riding, not parking,. . . .
If you gave up, why respond? What an unhelpful post/person. And others like/ laugh at the post? Pretty disappointing to someone who is new to this bike and this forum. . . . .
I provided what "I" believed was valid, and easy-to-do advise. I gave up when he made it plain that he was decided on a new side stand. . . . period. You agreed with him. . . . so. . . .

I am a pavement princess because. . . . well because. Besides, dirt or pavement has nothing to do with his issue. I have a crushed toe joint because my ST1300 wasn't leaning enough when I opened the saddle bag. Wasn't the side stand's fault, "I" hadn't payed enough attention to pavement grade. I am currently using "1-helmet + luggage" for my '17 ES's preload. Here are some pics, one on the center stand, and one on the side stand for comparison. Plenty of lean for safe parking.

center.jpgside.jpg
 

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Woah now, easy there. I have you a solution. Did you Private message Tombstone? He has bought an aftermarket adjustable aluminum kickstand. He can give you a review. Manufacturer, cost etc.

He is a real rider though, and might just be riding instead of hanging around here just to answer questions.

Good luck with your search.
I did buy an aftermarket SS and after a lot of $$ modifying it, I was still not happy, I ended up getting a heavier rear spring/custom shock which raised the bike a bit, and I rarely notice the SS problem now.
ps. Since I put the heavier spring/shock on I've been using the OEM SS. Works great now.
 
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Ok so I am confused. My '18 ES has actually blown over twice because it stands up pretty straight, plus had a number of issues at gas stations where it is just too straight up, even with the bars turned. I am 6' 210 (well pre Covid weight) and have the suspension at 1 helmet and luggage and then dialed at -2 for softness. This makes it too upright? I can't imagine changing it everytime I park and then have to change it to get a more plush ride.
 
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