Is there a side stand replacement for a 19' ES ?

damianadv

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As you may know the ES models have that flawed side stand where the bike seems to fall anytime on its side
Is there an aftermarket replacement besides the cheap chinese ones offered online?
I would like your to hear from you
Thanks
Ride safe
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Thrasherg

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I am surprised to hear this, I have a 17 ES and have never had any issue with the side stand? What causes the bike to fall, is yours sitting too upright when on the stand? Does the stand break or bend allowing the bike to fall? What is the issue? I did fit a stiffer rear spring as soon as I got the bike, so that might be raising the rear a bit meaning the bike leans more than with the stock spring (But I didn't notice a difference when i first fitted the spring). Just curious what the issue is.

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It did not fall yet but every time I jump of the bike and I want to lean it to laid it down on its side stand I does not go far enough to the left, it stays in a almost a vertical position
If I twist the handle bar to the opossite it does not change much to the point that I had to remove the givi side stand foot because it was not laying flat on any type of ground
 

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I am surprised to hear this, I have a 17 ES and have never had any issue with the side stand? What causes the bike to fall, is yours sitting too upright when on the stand? Does the stand break or bend allowing the bike to fall? What is the issue? I did fit a stiffer rear spring as soon as I got the bike, so that might be raising the rear a bit meaning the bike leans more than with the stock spring (But I didn't notice a difference when i first fitted the spring). Just curious what the issue is.

Gary
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An lot of that has to do with your preload. The more preload you have, the more lean the bike will have on the side stand. But, if you're not that heavy, you can't dial in the preload without ruining the way the bike rides. I weigh 300lb, and have a good amount of preload; 1 helmet & luggage-ES. So, I have plenty of lean on the side stand.
 

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strange that i have a gen 1 bike side stand was fine, but liked the look of the gen 2 side stand so swopped them over and had no issues at all with either stands both brilliant even on flat ground.
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An lot of that has to do with your preload. The more preload you have, the more lean the bike will have on the side stand. But, if you're not that heavy, you can't dial in the preload without ruining the way the bike rides. I weigh 300lb, and have a good amount of preload; 1 helmet & luggage-ES. So, I have plenty of lean on the side stand.
I notice that that the more weight I ad the more vertical it gets
Scary, waiting for it to fall anytime
 

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I agree with the OP. I've got a fairly light preload on my Gen2. Disconcerting lack of lean in my garage, let alone on any "adventure bike" terrain.
 

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Mine does stand up somewhat, however loaded up with luggage i wouldnt want it too far over as pulling it up vertical when on the bike is much harder to do. Swings and roundabouts.
 

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Mine not only sits almost vertically but park on anything with a lightly downward slope to it, even one you can't actually see and it can just roll off the side stand where it doesn't move very far forward into the fully down position. I now park in gear at all times and push all slack out of the drive train before leaning the bike on the side stand.

I can only park on roads that are dead level or have the camber going downward to the left. This sometimes means having to turn around and face the other way on a road.

I have bought a steel early version side stand and fitted it to make sure it works okay and it does. I will refit the alloy stand and get the steel stand shortened and maybe get a larger foot added for soft ground.
 

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On a Es the lean angle changes with the suspension setting and load. A difficult fix for a one size side stand.

I have seen an adjustable side stand aftermarket. It bent and had to be taken to a welder to reinforce.

I just park more carefully

PM tombstone for details. It was on his bike.
 

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I had the same trouble with side stand when my 2018 ES was new. It took me a long time to finally figure out how to adjust the suspension properly. i Had read the ES suspension instructions in the owners manual but didn’t read them carefully enough ! After figuring out my stupid misunderstanding the suspension became very easy to adjust properly and no more side stand issues. As far as an extra side stand plate attached to the side stand I don’t think that would work very well for me but I do carry one of those plastic side stand plates that insurance companies often give away at at rally’s and occasionally use it if needed.
 

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I think that stand is the same for all Gen2 bikes. The ES however seems more
softly suspended then the standard model.


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I notice that that the more weight I ad the more vertical it gets. . . .
I think there may be some "not seeing the forest for the trees" going on here. ES or non-ES. . . . less preload = less lean, more weight = less lean. Doesn't matter how it's adjusted; ES is just easier to adjust. Besides, if you're going to load her up like a pack mule. . . . you have to dial up the preload. . . . that's the whole reason it's adjustable. It's like an empty 1-ton truck riding down a bumpy road; rough. Put a ton in that same truck, rides much better. The Tenere is the same way. Since the OP has an ES, he could just easily dial up the preload when he's going to park. That'll give the lean he's looking for.
 

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I think there may be some "not seeing the forest for the trees" going on here. ES or non-ES. . . . less preload = less lean, more weight = less lean. Doesn't matter how it's adjusted; ES is just easier to adjust. Besides, if you're going to load her up like a pack mule. . . . you have to dial up the preload. . . . that's the whole reason it's adjustable. It's like an empty 1-ton truck riding down a bumpy road; rough. Put a ton in that same truck, rides much better. The Tenere is the same way. Since the OP has an ES, he could just easily dial up the preload when he's going to park. That'll give the lean he's looking for.
So every time I park in my garage unloaded or loaded I have to find the right op adjustment?
I don't think so, the fix is a different side stand that is the way I see it
The bike doesn't lean enough in any situation
 
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