Higher wind screen - help and advice needed

ec90t

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NoMorBills said:
I tried several differant windscreens. Tall ones that I had to look thru. I am 6' 3" and did not like looking thru.
I tried a MRA X-creen and have not looked back. I don't wear ear plugs anymore because there is no wind blowing across my helmet and I can look well over it. Also it is ajustable so if I want to set it high to block rain I can or swing it down for riding off raod and it is out of the way.

I have this windscreen and the Yamaha winglets. This combo works very well for me. I'm a 6'2", long torso fellow (32" inseam). I was fortunate enough to try this screen first and have never looked back. This is the best combo I've ever had on any of my ADV bikes.
 

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The X-creen is being used on the Factory Windscreen?

That looks great. When its up, are you looking through it?
 

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VPS1 said:
The X-creen is being used on the Factory Windscreen?

That looks great. When its up, are you looking through it?
I'm not aware if it is being offered as a Yamaha accessory. I got mine through Twisted Throttle.

I look over mine just fine and see off-road really well when it is down.
 

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cochise325 I have a Touratech holder to my screen, its the same same but different to madstad bracket. :D
Right now it stands between MRA xcreen and Givi windscreen.
But I find different measures of height on them online, so if someone wants to measure the height of his screen I would be very grateful.
 

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That is the answer I always give to this question. They make them in varying heights,
If you don't mind me asking...how tall are ya and what size screen are ya using? Thx!
 

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There is no one screen that will suit all.

For me its the Givi AirFlow with Yamaha winglets. You can have the screen as high or low as you want and the 2 piece design breaks up the wind flow.

Motorway cruising speeds + (when abroad) with visor up.....no problem.

Hope this helps

Mike
 

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Crapola-too many to choose!!

Sounds like the finalists (for me) are Cal Sci, Parabellum, and Givi Airflow.

The Givi sounds good because it is so quickly adjustable.
 

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I have a 22 inch Parabellum and a MRA Vario. While the Parabellum is fine for me in cooler weather, it is too hot for me in the summer and so I run the MRA most of the year. I also found that I am able to adjust the spoiler on the MRA while in motion to suit conditions. I have a Wasp adjustable bracket that it is mounted to, but you must stop to adjust that. I have found that I couldn't find the sweet spot with the Parabellum for rain. For me the sweet spot for rain is where I can get the draft to help blow rain drops down the shield. In years past, when I had an electric shield on my ST1300 I found that rather than having the shield all the way up in the rain, if I lowered it to that spot where it created a sort of downdraft, it would keep the helmet face shield relatively clear so that I didn't have to continually wipe the water off of the it. Yesterday I rode 600 miles back to my home in IL from a weekend ride in the north Georgia mountain and ran into some heavy thunderstorms. I found that if I put the MRA spoiler all the way up, my helmet shield kept a layer of water on it to the extent that I had to continually try to wipe if off with my glove. By lowering the spoiler two notches while riding, I found the spot where it created just the right draft to keep the rain drops to a minimum and I rode for about an hour at 70-80 mph and never had to wipe my face shield. So, I am convinced that for me, the MRA Vario is the better windshield for various conditions. I am also better able to find the sweet spot with no buffeting and very little wind noise by adjusting that spoiler. It looks like they now offer a windscreen with an even bigger spoiler and I imagine that would work even better.

I am 5' 11 with a 30 inch inseam and the MRA is best for me. YMMV.
 

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I have a genuine Yamaha brand 'tall windshield' for sale that I took off of my 2013. It is virtually brand new and going for a bargain price of $50 + shipping.
E-mail me for information. marblesmotors@gmail.com
 

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I'm 6'3" with a 32" inseam. I've tried the Yamaha tall, V stream sport and touring with and without the MadStad bracket as well as several other screens. The best I've found so far is the MRA w/spoiler mounted to the MadStad bracket. Still not perfect, especially in strong cross winds, but unless the windshield can be brought very close to the rider, that's not going to change with any screen.
 

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Mounted a CalSci medium screen on a Madstad bracket today...was running the stock screen...night and day. Clean air over the top and ample air coming around hitting shoulders/chest for venting. Positioned dead center up/down and forward/back. I'm just shy of 6' with a 32" inseam. Plain to hack the stock screen up to make a shorty for around town/fire-roads/what have you.
 

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If you are experiencing severe neck pain, I would think alot of riding is probably not an option, no matter what you are riding on.
Reducing buffeting and turbulence is something that you probably cannot "fix" there is some basic physics here that simply will always be there.
I ride with the Yamaha tall and side defelectors and it works well but there are many bikes that do better.( None are perfect)
My C-14 had about the best aerodynamics of most other rides and even it was not ideal.
I hope you find a package that is good and that your neck gets better.
I am done chasing the "perfect windshield" I gave that up years ago.
The wind/air pressure always wins.
 

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Didg said:
Givi Airflow. The venturi is very effective. I'm very glad I bought mine. ::008::
Another vote for the give airflow from me - they are simply amazing.

I had one on my previous v-strom and it helped me tour all over europe in comfort and out of the wind blast.

When i got the tenere and hated the std screen, i didn't even look at other brands, simply bought another airflow. It is the only screen with any real science behind it and the "airflow" mechanism just works great. Adjust of the height of the screen doesn't make as much difference as you would think - i have it fairly low and it works great - moving it up makes little difference - you will find there is a "sweet spot" height for you and probably leave it alone after that.
 

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Mounted up a Givi Airflow last night, tested it up to about 80. I'm thrilled. Really impressed. Now I just need to figure out a way to stash the top half when the pavement ends.

I'm 6'4", 32" inseam, my seat is custom, one to two inches taller than the stock high position.
 

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krussell said:
Mounted up a Givi Airflow last night, tested it up to about 80. I'm thrilled. Really impressed. Now I just need to figure out a way to stash the top half when the pavement ends.

I'm 6'4", 32" inseam, my seat is custom, one to two inches taller than the stock high position.
good aren't they?

- as for stashing the top half - i probably wouldn't bother, just push it to the lowest setting, its only stick up an inch or so and the low part of the givi is lower than the std screen so should work out about right!
 

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krussell said:
Mounted up a Givi Airflow last night, tested it up to about 80. I'm thrilled. Really impressed. Now I just need to figure out a way to stash the top half when the pavement ends.

I'm 6'4", 32" inseam, my seat is custom, one to two inches taller than the stock high position.
1000ish miles this past weekend with the Airflow. Still liking it, but found it's limits. Gusty (say 20mph) crosswinds are no match. The lack of width doesn't leave much room for anything from the side. Took my wife out on the S10 for the first time for about 3 hours. She praised the lack of buffeting, her most recent point being a K1600GTL with an aeroflow setup. I was really surprised.

Decided to get a Parabellum 26" to get a back to back comparison. Windshield Smack Down 2014 starts next week.
 

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Givi airflow all the way. I have had one on mine for two years now. You can set it to the exact height needed to get the least noise and buffeting and still be able to see over it. I am amazed how wel it actually works whenever I get on another bike with different/no screens and how noisy and buffity they are.
 

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My Parabellum 26 arrived today, so I spent the evening comparing it and the Givi Airflow. I did four runs of about 20 minutes each, two with the Givi, two with the Parabellum. It was closer than I thought, but in the end the overall nod goes to the Parabellum, but it's not a massive difference. Like all windshield / seat opinions, it's just an opinion. What works for me may not work for you. Top speed was 75ish. I did my tests without earplugs so I could hear the detail. I run a Arai helmet, normally with the shield down, but it's a bit quieter with it up.

The Para is not much larger than the Givi with the Givi fully extended, I'd say about an inch. It's a bit wider, but again, not much. The Para definitely offers better protection. There's less wind behind it, the pocket is wider so the shoulders get less wind. I'm 6'4" 300 so there's a lot of breadth.

The wind over my head on the Para is much closer than with the Givi, but it's also better defined. There's a lot of wind that get's past the Givi so it's likely the better choice if you ride in HOT weather all the time. In the winter, the Para is going to ride warmer.

The Para has a very clean normal look. The Givi is bizarre, but it grows on you in a S10 sort of way. ::013::

The Givi is adjustable for height, and I run a Touratech adjustable bracket as well. I've been messing with the Givi for a couple of weeks. I think I had it optimally adjusted for me, and I ran the Para in the same place. I didn't adjust anything running back to back, in theory that means there could be some improvement left with the Para.

The big Givi only feature is that you can pull the top half off and run with just the bottom, and adjust the vertical size of the shield. That could be a big win in the heat, but on the other hand I can run just run the stocker when it's hot. For the long road work, I'll swap in the Parabellum.

Portland area riders, if you want to try either or both PM me, happy to let you test ride them. I'll likely hang on to the Givi for a little while to make sure it's good two up, then sell it.
 
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