Hey somebody has a clue!

[wfopete]

2013 KTM 1190 Adventure R Specifications

LC8 V-twin engine with dual ignition, Keihin engine management, electronic fuel injection with drive-by-wire and slipper clutch. This is similar to the motor in the current RC8 model.
Power: 110 kW/150 hp, Torque: 125 Nm, 15.000 km of inspections, KTM also promises low power consumption
235 kg fully fueled
Multistage Combined ABS BOSCH
BOSCH multi-Traction Control (MTC)
Full WP USD forks with adjustable with separate compression and rebound
WP fully adjustable rear shock absorber
World’s first off-road modes for ABS and traction control.
Trellis frame
Tubeless tires on wire wheels – 90/90- 21 front, 150/60-18 rear
Footpegs, seat height, handlebar position and adjustable windshield
Modern VDO instrument package

 

[switchback]

If I could rely on the bike and get 24K between valve adjustments I would consider it. ::022::

 

[wfopete]

+1. Also I'm little afraid to find out what the price of admission will be.

For sale: Yamaha Tenere' Low miles. Best offer. Real motorcycle forces sale.

 

[Koinz]

still 518lbs - before any luggage. Better than most though.

 

[switchback]

The word BOSCH has me scared already, and yes I speak from experience with German electronics.

 

[markjenn]

The word BOSCH has me scared already, and yes I speak from experience with German electronics.

I don't know about the S10, but tons of Japanese bikes/cars use Bosch electronics for ignition and FI systems.

- Mark

 

[markjenn]

Tubeless tires on wire wheels – 90/90- 21 front, 150/60-18 rear

Bravo KTM. The tubed tires were always a deal-breaker for me in a touring bike, but this machine is a player now in my book. Might be the first instance of a 21" OEM tubeless application.

- Mark

 

[switchback]

I don't know about the S10, but tons of Japanese bikes/cars use Bosch electronics for ignition and FI systems.

- Mark

Perhaps, but haven't been on any of my Yammies.

 

[bloodline]

Chain drive, orange, reliable???, sport bike motor....

Not sure that wheel info is accurate.

Props to ktm for getting in the market, but I swear ktm people are like BMW people. They will tell you how great it is while they are fixing the broken pile of crap.

 

[JaimeV]

I think Yamaha must do the same than KTM: a R version with 21/18" wheels and longer suspensions.
I like also the idea they have: an off road ABS who only acts in the front wheel.
As always KTM is looking for the off road riders.
Lets other people test it and after two years we talk about it…

 

[snakebitten]

Chain drive, orange, reliable???, sport bike motor....

Not sure that wheel info is accurate.

Props to ktm for getting in the market, but I swear ktm people are like BMW people. They will tell you how great it is while they are fixing the broken pile of crap.

Not quite that bad. But yea, lots of quirks.

Water pump impellers. No biggy though.
Starter torque limiter. Warranty.
Gas tank SUCKS. Expands and leaks. $$$ if not warrantied.
Seat is imaginary. Thats not a seat.

But after those few and mostly minor complaints, the thing just ROCKS!
Actually, too much fun. Can NOT behave on it. Nobody could.

Still, I would let it go way before the S10. Far better piece of overall engineering.

 

[Checkswrecks]

You'd miss having the Tenere to complain about...

 

[The Rotund One]

You'd miss having the Tenere to complain about...

Hopefully.... ::012::

 

[MrTwisty]

Not quite that bad. But yea, lots of quirks.

Water pump impellers. No biggy though.
Starter torque limiter. Warranty.
Gas tank SUCKS. Expands and leaks. $$$ if not warrantied.
Seat is imaginary. Thats not a seat.

But after those few and mostly minor complaints, the thing just ROCKS!
Actually, too much fun. Can NOT behave on it. Nobody could.

Still, I would let it go way before the S10. Far better piece of overall engineering.

That just about sums it up, but you forgot the glass kickstand and the clutch slave that only works when it's new. I had a love/hate relationship with my KTM 950. I'm happier with my Tenere even though it doesn't give me that big shit-eating grin like the KTM did.

 

[True Grip]

Yea the grin disappears when your adventure is waiting for a trailer to haul you home.

I think KTMs are great but you better be a wrencher.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

I once had a KTM 520 EXC. Engine was snap your neck powerful, and the handling was fantastic. If you have a team of mechanics waiting back at home it's a perfect bike...unless you want to resell it some day. Ouch...

 

[MrTwisty]

I once had a KTM 520 EXC. Engine was snap your neck powerful, and the handling was fantastic. If you have a team of mechanics waiting back at home it's a perfect bike...unless you want to resell it some day. Ouch...

I think KTM must have screwed up when they made the 450EXC, because I have one and so far I have had zero issues...except for the pattented glass kickstand mounted at an angle that will never support the bike, but an aftermarket one fixed that. I know several other people who have 450's with similar experiences. The engineers at KTM must be scratching their heads and asking themselves where they went wrong.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

I came away from my KTM ownership experience with a lot of respect for their engineering of a high performance bike. They are cutting edge with their designs and functionality, and arguably are better performers than comparable Japaneses bikes.

But personally I'm willing to sacrifice cutting edge performance for rock solid reliability with minimal needed maintenance. I'd much rather ride than wrench for whatever reason.

 

[stevepsd]

I think KTM must have screwed up when they made the 450EXC, because I have one and so far I have had zero issues...except for the pattented glass kickstand mounted at an angle that will never support the bike, but an aftermarket one fixed that. I know several other people who have 450's with similar experiences. The engineers at KTM must be scratching their heads and asking themselves where they went wrong.

::026:: on my '09 530EXC.

The sidestand is really for appearances only. Mine broke within the first 6 months. Not uncommon.

They are maintenance intensive, but are pretty simple to work on. Even doing valve shims, as it is a hybrid OHC with roller rocker arms, is easy. Less than a hour from start to finish which includes R&R the gas tank. Parts are not to bad, especially if bought on-line. They definitely have their quirks, and KTM does not get all the bugs worked out until around the 3rd/4th model year, just in time for KTM to replace it with something new.

Not much choice out there for a larger displacement (450cc & up) real dirt bike that was California street legal, especially back in '09.

 

[Waspworks]

2013 KTM 1190 Adventure R Specifications

LC8 V-twin engine with dual ignition, Keihin engine management, electronic fuel injection with drive-by-wire and slipper clutch. This is similar to the motor in the current RC8 model.
Power: 110 kW/150 hp, Torque: 125 Nm, 15.000 km of inspections, KTM also promises low power consumption
235 kg fully fueled
Multistage Combined ABS BOSCH
BOSCH multi-Traction Control (MTC)
Full WP USD forks with adjustable with separate compression and rebound
WP fully adjustable rear shock absorber
World’s first off-road modes for ABS and traction control.
Trellis frame
Tubeless tires on wire wheels – 90/90- 21 front, 150/60-18 rear
Footpegs, seat height, handlebar position and adjustable windshield
Modern VDO instrument package

I would be absolutely on-board that in a flash if it had the traditional KTM ADv under seat zorst..

Greg.