Has anyone done a TBS yet?

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I was looking through the service manual and it appears the TBS adjustment is a little more involved than what is required on the Strom. Has anyone done it? Love to see a writeup with pictures if you've got it.
 

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TBS? Damned new fangled, high falootin'... Throttle Body Sync? :D
 

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:D just hook that tube and that one to one of those little bouncy deals, then hook it to a vacuum and start the bike,,,,,, should be good..... :D



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Don in Lodi said:
TBS? Damned new fangled, high falootin'... Throttle Body Sync? :D
Guess it may not be as common a term outside of the DL1000 world. If you ride the big Strom, you know all about throttle body sync.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
Guess it may not be as common a term outside of the DL1000 world. If you ride the big Strom, you know all about throttle body sync.
And real men make their own differential manometer's right Dirt_Dad? ;D

Common in the hairy chested world of DL1000's.
 

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yes sir reeee bob, I have me one of those Man-o-meters made from scratch as well. Grab you a stick, some oil, and some really long straws to pour the oil into. Duct-tape it all together, hook it to the bike, start it and make the oil level!!!!
 

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GrahamD said:
And real men make their own differential manometer's right Dirt_Dad? ;D

Common in the hairy chested world of DL1000's.
Yep, some tube, a stick, couple of zip ties and a few ounces of Marvel's Mystery Oil. Works every time.

I'm only asking because after riding three different demo Teneres, one of them definitely had a growl. When my Vee growls at me I do a TBS and it smooths right out. At first I thought I'd miss the cool growl sound, but once I felt the improved performance there was no turning back. A bad throttle body sync is not to be tolerated.

The S10 manual does spell out a procedure, but it talks about different sized lines and plugging stuff. It's more involved than the DL1000 and I'd really like to see someone else blaze the trail and show us how it's done.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
Guess it may not be as common a term outside of the DL1000 world. If you ride the big Strom, you know all about throttle body sync.
I ride a Royal Star that doesn't like to keep it's four carbs in sync to terribly long for me, 110k, worn parts prolly. If the Tenere has the ports, it should just be a matter of finding the screws.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I was looking through the service manual and it appears the TBS adjustment is a little more involved than what is required on the Strom.
Looks about the same to me. Don't be flummoxed by all the "disconnect (1), fit special parts (2), (3), and (4)" BS. All they're doing is setting up a "T" connection to tap into an existing hose that has intake vacuum for one cylinder (they must use this vacuum for something else); the other you just remove a cap and put the hose on. It sounds like one bypass screw is painted at the factory to be the "standard" - you leave it along and adjust the other side. I have no idea how hard it is to get to these taps or the bypass screws. On the V-twin Strom it was a bit of a PITA as they were buried in the V of the motor and a lot of guys would install extension hoses to facilitate access. I bet access is easier on the parallel twin.

Also note that you're just adjusting idle balance with the bypass screws. As you run at more and more throttle opening, the effect of the bypass screws on sync diminishes and the sync of the TB linkage dominates. There is probably an undocumented process to adjust this linkage for sync off-idle, but unless you disassemble the TBs, probably no reason to ever do it as this stays in adjustment very, very well. The FJR is similar and I've never felt any need to do any adjustment beyond a slight tweak of the bypass screws to smooth the idle a bit, and even that I've neglected as the idle of the bike has been smooth now for the last 25K or so.

Yamaha's recommendation to do this sync every 6K strikes me as ultra-conservative and since there is no durability aspect if the TB's get slightly out of sync (the bike just doesn't idle quite as smoothly), you really can do this more when the bike "feels" like it needs it rather than religiously. I'm a believer that the biggest danger to carb and FI system reliability is typically the owner screwing around in areas they don't need to.

- Mark
 

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Just an FYI...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16262674#post16262674

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