Exactly right! It is true that almost any system, EFI or Carb, can be made to screw up either on purpose or by accident. But that is NOT what is happening here. I am really sick of those that have not ever even seen the problem implying or outright saying that is is an operator error. That is pure BS. Let me put it in perspective:Quote from: autoteach on November 24, 2014, 10:55:47 pm
my chevy blazer, my subaru, kawasaki watercraft... I have seen this occur on far more fuel injected vehicles than you can imagine.:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads15/throttle+response+cam1250899088.jpg
Apparently you're just not living right. I drive cars and motorcycles too and I've never experienced this problem with any of them except the Super Tenere.
I have put somewhere around 400,000 miles on trucks and cars with EFI. Zero hard starts.
I put 93,000 miles on my V-Strom. Zero hard starts.
I even have 14,000 miles on my home made EFI system on my DR-650. Zero hard starts.
I have 45,000 miles on my S10. 5 hard starts!
So did I suddenly get stupid when I bought the S10? And did all the other knowledgeable and experienced owners that have experienced this on ONLY this bike suddenly get stupid also?
Yes some of my hard starts have been after a prior short run and shut down. But some were not. I just pushed the button like I always do and got the hard start. I never give it any throttle unless it fails to start right away. Hundreds of crisp starts in a row and then bingo. Hard start. Every time but once it eventually started with WOT. One time it ran the battery down completely. Fortunately I had an Antigravity Micro Start battery with me and jumped it with that and got it started eventually with more WOT. (I was 350 miles from home).
I still don't think this is a MAJOR issue with the bike, all bikes have some warts and this is really a relatively minor annoyance in the big picture. But PLEASE don't be so arrogant as to tell those of us us that HAVE experienced it that it is our own fault and not the bike. It just isn't true.
I have made my share of mistakes and have admitted some of my biggest ones here on this forum, but how I push the magic button is not one of them.