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bigbob said:
Since I do not want to be the forum Idiot, I will try to ask an intelligent question about breaks or brakes without getting my wedding jewels in a twist.

How does the linked front brake split between the front and back? 50/50 or 60/40 or some other mix?

After riding cruisers trying to break the habit if using the back brake more than the front.
Hopefully this helps. In short, it is a dynamic ratio dependent on a couple factors, speed and weight (more specifically the rate at which the wheel speed declines). Disengaging the UBS, or linked brakes, doesn't apply a static ratio of front to rear pressure like you mentioned.

 

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So basically at a stop it is all front. The max rear brake when linked comes with low-medium front brake grab and then tapers off the harder you pull. And loaded (or just me since bob is big) you get more rear.

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bigbob said:
So basically at a stop it is all front. The max rear brake when linked comes with low-medium front brake grab and then tapers off the harder you pull. And loaded (or just me since bob is big) you get more rear.
Yep, essentially. And also, this assumes that the '14's ABS/UBS ECU remained unchanged from previous years. ::008::
 

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bigbob said:
Since I do not want to be the forum Idiot, I will try to ask an intelligent question about breaks or brakes without getting my wedding jewels in a twist.

How does the linked front brake split between the front and back? 50/50 or 60/40 or some other mix?

After riding cruisers trying to break the habit if using the back brake more than the front.
Should you ever ride a Cruiser again, you should know the Front Brake still has more stopping force than the back, as you progress per type of bike to say a sportbike that changes to 90 percent front stopping power.
This is why I like the linked brake system, so many people are in accidents simply because they use to much rear brake.
 

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shrekonwheels said:
Should you ever ride a Cruiser again, you should know the Front Brake still has more stopping force than the back, as you progress per type of bike to say a sportbike that changes to 90 percent front stopping power.
This is why I like the linked brake system, so many people are in accidents simply because they use to much rear brake.
Or they use to much front, load the front & loose control
 

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Berg_Donk said:
As far as I can tell, disabling the ABS also disables the linking which works for me. Enabled its often OK, but then it causes grief occasionally when it won't stop. If it works for you, great, but it doesn't work for me. But I have a workaround and I'm happy.
Correct...as long as you disable the ABS motor and not just the solenoid. Hopefully people aren't under the impression that spinning the wheel while on the center stand will disable both systems.
 

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shrekonwheels said:
Should you ever ride a Cruiser again, you should know the Front Brake still has more stopping force than the back, as you progress per type of bike to say a sportbike that changes to 90 percent front stopping power.
This is why I like the linked brake system, so many people are in accidents simply because they use to much rear brake.
I still have a Stratoliner Deluxe for bike Night. So I will be riding a cruiser.

 

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My biggest concern about the ST brakes are they are so good they make me lazy... I am already ignoring the rear brake and letting the link system do the thinking... BECAUSE ITS SO smurfING GOOD AT IT. My worry is I will get on another unlinked bike and kill myself. I consciously try and hit both brakes every time to keep the muscle memory alive.

It's like when I had a Subaru where the lights went off when I turned the key off, after years of just leaving the lights on 24/7 I bought a Toyota and came back to a dead battery two or three times before I relearned how to use the headlight switch... Like that only with the possibility of dying.... I will admit I was a little unsure of this when I bought the bike, but a thousand miles down the road I am all " well played Yamaha, well played."
I agree. I have 85,000km on my s10. I have only replaced the rear brake twice. I am on the 3rd one. That is how good the braking system is that I don't use the rear brake at all.
 

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shrekonwheels said:
Should you ever ride a Cruiser again, you should know the Front Brake still has more stopping force than the back.
Have been trying to train myself (and I am over 60) to use just the front unless I really want to stop. Works great on the Ténéré as idiots have kicked in the ABS a couple of times. However I rode the Strat this week and I need to train my brain to ride them differently.
 

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I like 'em. They stabilize this REALLY BIG BIKE, and take some thought out of braking in the twisties. One can still lock the rear, independently, so for off-road it's alright. On-road, brake-dive is minimized by the linking even though the rear brake application is mild. No complaints here.
 

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I just turn the ABS off, and this also kills the linking. Much more predicatble and consistent operation then and can be ridden 'normally'. Works for me.
 

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Berg_Donk said:
I just turn the ABS off, and this also kills the linking. Much more predicatble and consistent operation then and can be ridden 'normally'. Works for me.
Yeah, but you Aussies do everything upside down.
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