gush, why linked breaks???

[oldbear]

Uh, far as I know my S10 doesn't have any breaks, linked or unlinked, and I don't think I want any. I'll settle for ABS BRAKES that are linked, thank you very much ::015::

 

[JohnB]

This is one of the best braking bikes I've ever owned. I was apprehensive at first but now I really appreciate how effective Yamaha's implementation of linking and ABS is in this machine. I find myself using the pedal less except when I want to drag the rear brake alone (IE: trail braking) or need a little extra power in an emergency. In all fairness, I haven't used this bike off road and probably won't since I don't have much if any off-road riding available where I live.

 

[barkingllizard]

Really???

this is for me the biggest drawback and disadvantage of super tenere so far.
Same as ABS which you cannot simply switch off like in bmw GS is a nonsense,

REALLY???

But linked breaks??? come on honda tried that and backed off already,
it's very bad idea especially offroad. They try to take away full control of the bike from the rider
which in case of motorcycle will never succeed. I bet next generation ST will come back to regular breaks.

Honda has NOT backed off, and neither have any of the other manufacturers...
The rest contained in the above quoted text, does not deserve comment.....

The system just plain works in almost every condition using them together with the lever. As far as the ABS goes its pretty refined also,
I would not sweat it one bit. Open your mind to the possibility that these are functional features and explore your choices intelligently.

+1

Maybe, just maybe, robson, you should consider a pedal bike... BMW makes those as well.....

 

[Dirt_Dad]

almost every forum has an idiot, so here we are...

I've never seen someone do a self assessment so quickly. Bravo to you robson, you figured out your role in only 10 posts.

Take a brake, crack open a beer, and pat yourself on the back.

 

[greg the pole]

Uh, far as I know my S10 doesn't have any breaks, linked or unlinked, and I don't think I want any. I'll settle for ABS BRAKES that are linked, thank you very much ::015::

Dammit Man! you beat me to the peach...errmmm sorry punch...

don't forget to tip your waitress.

 

[Ramseybella]

We chased him off and didn't need an Amsoil sales pitch to do it!!
After owning a Triumph Tiger 1050 with ABS when I got my S10 I was wondering if the ABS work at all on this bike.
Honestly they engage so darn smoothly I thought it was broke they were broken.

 

[ExTriumphExp]

We chased him off and didn't need an Amsoil sales pitch to do it!!
After owning a Triumph Tiger 1050 with ABS when I got my S10 I was wondering if the ABS work at all on this bike.
Honestly it engages so darn smoothly I thought it was broke.

Ditto Ramsey, I also came from a Tiger 1050 sport, after an Explorer, no im not a gluten for punishment the sport was a way out from the Explorer. The difference in the quality of these two bikes is unreal. Handling on the S10 is far better on the road, the sports a 100% road bike so surely logic dictates the sport should handle better than the S10?

Before anyone jumps down my neck saying you cant compare these two bikes please read the paragraph again & take note of the word underlined

 

[chwhnd]

You will loose that bet. BTW they are brakes and they work great just the way they are. This is not a BMW.

+1

 

[Boondocker]

I really like the Super Ténéré braking system.

After my brakes were broken in I decided to test the brakes by braking hard on some broken pavement. Satisfied that the brakes braked vary well and nothing was broken, I took a break to buy a Coke but realized I was broke.

I love the English language. :exclaim:

 

[oldbear]

Ditto Ramsey, I also came from a Tiger 1050 sport, after an Explorer, no im not a gluten for punishment the sport was a way out from the Explorer. The difference in the quality of these two bikes is unreal. Handling on the S10 is far better on the road, the sports a 100% road bike so surely logic dictates the sport should handle better than the S10?

Before anyone jumps down my neck saying you cant compare these two bikes please read the paragraph again & take note of the word underlined

I too had a 1050 Tiger. I liked the rush from the triple, BUT overall find the S10 superior in every way. The turnip was a good ride, I believe the S10 to be a great one. Love the linked brakes and ABS, love the stability through the twisties and the "thumper like" feel when you pour it on! ::021::

 

[RIVA]

I really like the Super Ténéré braking system.

After my brakes were broken in I decided to test the brakes by braking hard on some broken pavement. Satisfied that the brakes braked vary well and nothing was broken, I took a break to buy a Coke but realized I was broke.

I love the English language. :exclaim:

Well, do'nt that beat Banniher.

 

[20valves]

Bravo to you robson, you figured out your role in only 10 posts.

That's some funny sh*t there! ::025::

 

[Clevermonkey]

My biggest concern about the ST brakes are they are so good they make me lazy... I am already ignoring the rear brake and letting the link system do the thinking... BECAUSE ITS SO FUCKING GOOD AT IT. My worry is I will get on another unlinked bike and kill myself. I consciously try and hit both brakes every time to keep the muscle memory alive.

It's like when I had a Subaru where the lights went off when I turned the key off, after years of just leaving the lights on 24/7 I bought a Toyota and came back to a dead battery two or three times before I relearned how to use the headlight switch... Like that only with the possibility of dying.... I will admit I was a little unsure of this when I bought the bike, but a thousand miles down the road I am all " well played Yamaha, well played."

 

[offcamber]

My biggest concern about the ST brakes are they are so good they make me lazy... I am already ignoring the rear brake and letting the link system do the thinking... BECAUSE ITS SO smurfING GOOD AT IT. My worry is I will get on another unlinked bike and kill myself. I consciously try and hit both brakes every time to keep the muscle memory alive.

It's like when I had a Subaru where the lights went off when I turned the key off, after years of just leaving the lights on 24/7 I bought a Toyota and came back to a dead battery two or three times before I relearned how to use the headlight switch... Like that only with the possibility of dying.... I will admit I was a little unsure of this when I bought the bike, but a thousand miles down the road I am all " well played Yamaha, well played."

I have this issue when I ride my KLR however it only takes the first time I brake to remember to use the rear as well. Anyone that has ridden a KLR know the brakes suck and you need both to stop...

 

[Mzee]

this is for me the biggest drawback and disadvantage of super tenere so far.
Same as ABS which you cannot simply switch off like in bmw GS is a nonsense,
fortunately people already figured it out how to disable ABS so I can live with that.

But linked breaks??? come on honda tried that and backed off already,
it's very bad idea especially offroad. They try to take away full control of the bike from the rider
which in case of motorcycle will never succeed. I bet next generation ST will come back to regular breaks.
I'm very disappointed... ::010::

My problem with you position is an entrenched one. I don't know whether you have attempted to find out the merits of this ABS braking system. Obviously you don't suppose that Yamaha would be so stupid to make something that does not work. Perhaps in their considered opinion, they decided that whether there is an ABS switch was a matter of taste. And as someone remarked, some hate them and some love them. In this regard then, is it possible to conclude that the ABS itself is faultless, and that you prefer one with a switch because you are fossilized in a technological limbo.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

My biggest concern about the ST brakes are they are so good they make me lazy... I am already ignoring the rear brake and letting the link system do the thinking... BECAUSE ITS SO smurfING GOOD AT IT.

I can honestly say I've never noticed the linked braking in 40K+ miles of Tenere riding. The only place I think I've seen it is in the first set of rear brake pads that wore out sooner than expected. Otherwise, I still ride and brake exactly the same if I'm on my S10 or my WR. Of course more than 40 years of muscle memory probably has something to do with that.

 

[shrekonwheels]

Was it already mentioned that you can tap the rear brake to make them independent?

If not carry on smacking on eachother.

The linked breaks actually work extremely well on dirt, I was surprised.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Was it already mentioned that you can tap the rear brake to make them independent?

If not carry on smacking on eachother.

The linked breaks actually work extremely well on dirt, I was surprised.

Gee Ollie -


Why. . . .


Nobody thought of that one.


Till reply #3 for this troll.
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Sorry - Cheap response but you set yourself up, it was so obvious and easy to check.

 

[tomatocity]

The 2012 Super Tenere has the best brakes I have ever ridden. I rarely ever use the rear brake. Speaking of the rear brake... when my ST was new the rear brake would barely function. I had the ST in for service and asked them to check the rear brake. They bled the rear brake and now it functions as expected.

 

[bigbob]

Since I do not want to be the forum Idiot, I will try to ask an intelligent question about breaks or brakes without getting my wedding jewels in a twist.

How does the linked front brake split between the front and back? 50/50 or 60/40 or some other mix?

After riding cruisers trying to break the habit if using the back brake more than the front.