Gentlemen I traded in the Tenere

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Congrats on that gorgeous Scrambler. They're VERY nice rides. For a touring bike, must-haves for me are ABS, tubeless tires, and hard bags, so the bike has never been on my list for this mission, but as a hack-around, I'd love to have one. And an old W650 and a new CB1100.

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Dirt_Dad said:
You mean test rides help sell bikes :question: Someone is trying to keep that a secret from the Japanese dealers.
I take it that test rides are not the norm in your part of the world? Every Japanese dealer (and most of the others) in the UK has most of the range available for test rides. I believe that the factories do them a good deal on them so that they can resell them at no loss after a low mileage (but punishing) year or two. The exceptions are the niche models which, beleive it or not, include the S10 which dealers generally don't stock let alone have for test rides. The semi-automatic big bikes like the VFR1200 and the FJR1300 are also next to impossible to get a ride on which explains why they sell very few. Who would buy such an oddball motorcycle without trying it out first?
Regarding the Triumph Scrambler, why would you even consider an underpowered (compared to the S10), underbraked (one disc - really!!!), twin shock pretend retro machine with a ghastly exhaust system like that? It certainly wouldn't be on my wish list.
 

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Test rides depend on the dealer, here in the US. My local Honda/Yamaha dealer has never had a problem with allowing test rides on new or used bikes. I have worked part time in sales there since I retired from my real job and we were encouraged to offer test rides if prospective buyers had questions or concerns about which model to buy.
 

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Typhon said:
Sorry joe, I didn't hang on to anything.
Ken , what's a N1K? I googled and got a WW2 Japanese airplane.
The Ninja 1000, an old man's sport bike, very smooth but I still love my ST. It's a keeper.
 

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Test riding bikes is definitely an individual dealer thing, but at least in the US, the Euro importers, particularly BMW, have more generous flooring plans that allow a dealer to keep a demo around at much less cost than the Japanese makes. If a dedicated demo or used unit is not around, the cost/risk to the dealer of allowing a test ride on a brand-new, fresh-out-of-the-crate bike increases dramatically and generally they don't want to do it unless they feel you're super serious and they have to to close the sale.

- Mark
 

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Yes, it seems that the BMW dealers I have visited are very liberal with test rides. I used to go to St Louis with one of my BMW riding friends when he had to go in for service (often). The normal routine was to drop his bike off and then talk to a salesman who would suggest we take a couple of their bikes for a ride while they worked on my friend's bike. I'm not sure why more Japanese dealers don't. I know that Honda and Yamaha have demo programs whereby dealers get a discount on their cost for demo bikes. They require documentation on at least 10 test riders to qualify, but that is easy. Of course, they can't have 100% demos on the floor. I am fortunate that my local dealer will allow demos on almost anything he has on the floor. I have seen a few very limited edition sport bikes that were exempt from that policy, though.

This is a small town dealership, but still one that sells a lot of bikes. It is about an hour from St Louis and many times riders from that area will come in to look at a bike and ask if they can sit on it and will be told that they certainly can and if they care to take a ride and have the proper license endorsement, they are welcome to do that. Most are very surprised.

It is interesting in the times that I have worked in sales when, for instance a customer will look at a ST1300 and a FJR1300 and ask which is better. I would go over the features and differences and then tell them to ride both and then decide for themselves, as we all like different things.
 

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viewdvb said:
I take it that test rides are not the norm in your part of the world?
I've found it to be a regional thing. Here in the Washington, DC region you will not find a Japanese brand dealer willing to give a test ride. I've experienced a few exceptions with special circumstances, but in general it does not happen.

Go 100 miles south of DC to Charlottsville, VA and they all give test rides. When you act surprised to learn they allow rides they laugh and say, "you must be from Northern Virginia." Down there the Suzuki dealer told me his competing Honda dealer also offered rides. After all, he said, how would you know if you wanted to buy it if you didn't ride it? I really wish that attitude existed everywhere.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I've found it to be a regional thing. Here in the Washington, DC region you will not find a Japanese brand dealer willing to give a test ride. I've experienced a few exceptions with special circumstances, but in general it does not happen.

Go 100 miles south of DC to Charlottsville, VA and they all give test rides. When you act surprised to learn they allow rides they laugh and say, "you must be from Northern Virginia." Down there the Suzuki dealer told me his competing Honda dealer also offered rides. After all, he said, how would you know if you wanted to buy it if you didn't ride it? I really wish that attitude existed everywhere.
May be a urban/rural thing. Perhaps the chances of a yahoo coming in and thrashing/wrecking a bike are dramatically higher in urban areas.

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I owned a 2011 Triumph Tiger 800xc and that was the biggest P.O.S. I have ever had!! So glad its gone and this Tenere will run circles around the tiger off road and on road. Thats pretty sad.
Not saying anything but just saying....
 

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Dave & Joe-Joe,

Just added a N1K to my garage but kept the ST. Now i've got two mistresses...

When are we riding?

O-crap. I'm guessing your buddy that we went riding with had influence on you getting one like his??
Thought you were gonna get a KLR 650 to go riding in the woods & street ,like me?
 

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Wasn't me, I've got no friends with scramblers and the klr is just to tall for me. ;D
I'm always up for a ride Ken, let me just get the first service out of the way next week.
 

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I like the KLR and the DR650, but I have the ST and H60 Scouts to take me off - road, sugar sand aside. I was already leaning towards the N1K anyway, the Orlando Commando just helped me get off the fence. It's pretty dang smooth. Wish I had the talent to ride it well. Guess I need more practice ::26::

You guys want to do the Ozello Trail Feb 10th?
 
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