Well, I don't agree with the 'even if 1% above stock' sentiment, but I do agree about the cruisers with straight pipes. I don't mind a little growl, but ear-bleeding explosions out the azz end of a bike that are almost unbearable at 2 blocks away is where I draw the line. A guy I know who works at the local air base over here was recently handed a $200.00 U.S. equivalent fine from the Japanese police for running straight pipes. He's an OK guy and all, but it serves him right. No pipe needs to be THAT loud. It's way beyond 'loud pipes save lives' at that point. I don't really see the point because you loose any of the rich sound quality available in pipes that at least have some sound deadening or a baffle. It's more like 'look at me on my Harley, I'm such a badass'RonH said:Sorry about that, but noise is a real pet peave of mine. I work 20ft off a major road chock full of Harleys all summer and guess what rings in my ears all night 9 months out of the year? Same can be said for any variation, be it Yamaha, or Toyota or a 1971 Chevy C10 truck. I guess everyone thinks of no one but themselves when they feel the necessity to be loud? I like to go for 20 or 30 mile walks and a good majority is in the city, oh my freeking god what I have to hear and I don't feel anyone should need to hear other peoples crap regardless of what it is. So I don't have anything nice to say I guess, but there is no nice noise, even if it's 1% louder than stock, that's too much. Now for all my other negatives regarding mods to the bike, I still don't like them, but at least they don't affect me the way noise does.
I don't know if any of you saw the episode of South Park where they made fun of Harley riders, but I got a kick out it. Sure, there was plenty of hyperbole, but some of the material had an element of truth about the noise and the rider's reasoning for having it.