Delivery Dates

[Kevhunts]

Stopped in to chat with the dealer today and the Yamaha rep happened to be there. He said that the bikes are being manufactured currently in hopes that everyone who gets an order in on the PDP will get their bike in late May or early June. He did stress that the first ordered, first delivered process will be adhered to, so it does not matter where you live, if you ordered a bike on the east coast before someone ordered one on the west coast, then you should get yours before the one on the west coast. At least, that's the idea........

I don't know if everyone who is buying here in the states is currently a member of this group (we have over 70) but surely they could deliver 70 bikes in the first week of May.
I can't see this running into June unless there is some major malfunction at the factory.

 

[TEN YC]

I don't know if everyone who is buying here in the states is currently a member of this group (we have over 70)

of course not

That is most likely only a small fraction of the orders placed

 

[jajpko]

I think it will depend on production runs, and how many bikes they made, in the first run. Also how much time between runs.

 

[Krabill]

I don't know if everyone who is buying here in the states is currently a member of this group (we have over 70) but surely they could deliver 70 bikes in the first week of May.
I can't see this running into June unless there is some major malfunction at the factory.

There are 268 orders in the US accounted for on ADV at the moment and I'm 100% positive that not everybody who has ordered one is a member of ADV.

 

[bvail]

There's some (?) on www.fjrforum.com also.

 

[markjenn]

He did stress that the first ordered, first delivered process will be adhered to, so it does not matter where you live, if you ordered a bike on the east coast before someone ordered one on the west coast, then you should get yours before the one on the west coast. At least, that's the idea........

I'd be extremely surprised if Yamaha attempts to "hold orders" at dealers until bikes arrive at the dealers furthest down the shipping tree. That would be unprecedented, a logistic nightmare, and would really piss off people who live near the ports of entry. How would you like watching your bike sit for three weeks in Long Beach so that another bike that is above you on the order list can wind its way across the country to Duluth?

- Mark

 

[Mellow]

I'd be extremely surprised if Yamaha attempts to "hold orders" at dealers until bikes arrive at the dealers furthest down the shipping tree. That would be unprecedented, a logistic nightmare, and would really piss off people who live near the ports of entry. How would you like watching your bike sit for three weeks in Long Beach so that another bike that is above you on the order list can wind its way across the country to Duluth?

- Mark

How would you know?

 

[Koinz]

I'm still hoping they ALL come in around the same time May-June timeframe regardless of when we ordered them. Hey, but that's just me. :

 

[markjenn]

How would you know?

I don't. But something like is being suggested has never been done in the history of a new model and was never done in five or so years of the FJR PDP. Further, it just doesn't make any sense. They'd have to set up a gatekeeper back in Cypress holding up every bike on the list until all the preceding ones had been delivered. That's just silly.

I do think Yamaha will attempt to ship bikes from the distribution warehouses approximately in order of the PDP list. I'd bet that is all that the zone rep meant to say, not that they were going to rigorously insure that final delivery adhered to original order dates.

- Mark

 

[TEN YC]

I don't. But something like is being suggested has never been done in the history of a new model and was never done in five or so years of the FJR PDP. Further, it just doesn't make any sense. They'd have to set up a gatekeeper back in Cypress holding up every bike on the list until all the preceding ones had been delivered. That's just silly.

I do think Yamaha will attempt to ship bikes from the distribution warehouses approximately in order of the PDP list. I'd bet that is all that the zone rep meant to say, not that they were going to rigorously insure that final delivery adhered to original order dates.

- Mark

I agree. It would be silly to go to such lengths to deliver them in the exact order they were placed. It's not such a big deal and what kind of guy is going to go insane just because he might have to wait a couple of weeks longer than someone else?

They will be manufactured, crated and shipped. I'm betting that the vast majority will be delivered in or around May. I also predict that we will all look back at these discussions and laugh.

 

[Mellow]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense... I agree as well, just shipping them in order is really all Yamaha can do without adding a lot of cost and headache to the equation.

I also agree, we'll look back and laugh.

 

[eemsreno]

Just get them shipped, spring is starting to show through, We want our bikes.

 

[keeponriding]

It is also not cost-effective for Yamaha to hold any vehicles: The dealer owns the vehicle as soon as it hits his floor, meaning Yamaha Credit is accruing interest on the dealer's loan for inventory. For Yamaha to hold any vehicles means it's losing out on that interest, plus keeping vehicles on their own accounting books longer then they would need to...

I think they will ship the bike as soon as it's manufactured in the way that logistically makes the most sense: I don;t see them creating new logistic systems to handle 400 units (or whatever the production order is) especially as the end result might be a matter of days, or even weeks.

 

[hANNAbONE]

Actually I've been putting quite a bit of thought into this very subject.

If it weren't a logistic nightmare...I'd make sure that some of the deliveries were hitting ALL the states that had them ordered within the same time period.

Think of it...48 contiguous states having the same new model Yammy roaming around their particular digs and others seeing it for the first time

running out and placing their OWN ORDERS...talk about free advertising.!!

That's just me - mine is on its way in a few weeks...okay a coupla months...but if logistics weren't a factor, that's how I'd do it.

Get the new model out there for the world to see it everyday of riding season everyplace it can be/has been ordered -- and watch the flood of orders come in.

YMMV

 

[Mellow]

Are there more then one port of entry for the shipments?

I would agree that Yamaha is probably more concerned with getting the bikes off their books and meeting month-quarter-year goals.

They may build/ship the bikes in the order-sequence but a 'shipment' could be 100-200-??? bikes... who knows... for example, if they ship order 1-100 on one ship.. it enters in California... you are in Florida w/order number 1 but there is a guy in San Diego with order 100.. pretty sure the guy in CA gets his before the guy in FL...

Oh well, at least guessing keeps us from buying stuff... I need to go cut up my credit cards...

 

[Jakeboy]

Are there more then one port of entry for the shipments?

I would agree that Yamaha is probably more concerned with getting the bikes off their books and meeting month-quarter-year goals.

They may build/ship the bikes in the order-sequence but a 'shipment' could be 100-200-??? bikes... who knows... for example, if they ship order 1-100 on one ship.. it enters in California... you are in Florida w/order number 1 but there is a guy in San Diego with order 100.. pretty sure the guy in CA gets his before the guy in FL...

Oh well, at least guessing keeps us from buying stuff... I need to go cut up my credit cards...

Hey, c'mon! I'm the guy in Florida.

 

[markjenn]

They may build/ship the bikes in the order-sequence but a 'shipment' could be 100-200-??? bikes... who knows... for example, if they ship order 1-100 on one ship.. it enters in California... you are in Florida w/order number 1 but there is a guy in San Diego with order 100.. pretty sure the guy in CA gets his before the guy in FL...

Yes, this illustrates the problems associated with delivering in priority order. I think Yamaha will make some effort to try and tailor the distribution to get the first-ordered bikes out first, but I don't think they'll go to extraordinary measures nor hold up bikes that otherwise could be delivered.

I'm not knowledgeable on Yamaha's distribution system - I'd bet most (perhaps all) of the bikes come into a major west coast port like Long Beach where they fan out to a few major distribution warehouses, but I'd be interested if some bikes are shipped to gulf or east coast ports like cars are. I'd guess a shipment coming through the canal would take an additional week or ten days to reach someplace like Houston and maybe another five days or so if it was coming to someplace like Jersey.

Maybe Tony can chime in here with some actual information.

- Mark

 

[martinh]

Hey, c'mon! I'm the guy in Florida.

If Yami was smart what they would do is take the order of which yours was ordered and start deliverys on the east coast and work back to the west coast. That way As they are being delivered and set up on the east, they then hit mid west so they would be getting deliveries and set up. As fast as the East got them the West would have them also.

 

[keeponriding]

My guess, is Yamaha is using the advance orders to determine the initial production runs, shipping all mfr'd bikes in a 2 to 3 week time frame using their standard logistics method without concern for who order first or last. So, in theory, the guy who maybe ordered last, but happens to be closest to the nearest port of entry (LA or Seattle), gets the bike first. The guy, who in theory, ordered first, but lives furthest (say UP MI or Minn by the Canadian border) gets his bike last...depending on rail/truck lines from closest port. However, depending on units, that might only be a two week difference.

I don't believe it to be cost effective for Yamaha to modify their standard method of dealer delivery. However, to hANNAbONE's point...getting the bikes out at the start of the riding season (by May) get's the most buzz...cool, new bikes showing up at Deal's Gap or the Rock Store, or the popular bike stop near you, is the best way to promote word of mouth and have other potential buyer's flock to their dealers to buy one for next year.

It makes little sense to promote that word-of-mouth at the end of the riding season.....though it might just work out that way.

So, if I were running the supply chain, I would plan on starting my mfring line April 15, giving me two weeks to set up my mfring line(s) based on production orders from us...with first units coming off the line April 20, on a boat by April 24 and in the US May 1, ready for rail/truck to distribution centers.

 

[trinc4me]

Given all this talk and theory about delivery dates.......it seems an appropriate time for Yamaha to send another letter which AGAIN will not mention delivery dates!!!! ARRRGGHHH