Changes for 2018 model?

Sierra1

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Fair warning, max temperature is VERY hot! I wouldn't recommend trying it out without gloves.

Agreed. I don't know what my settings are, but generally I only use max for a few minutes. As soon as the grip starts to heat up, I drop it back to medium. Of course, it is kind of common sense. If it's cold enough for max, you should probably already be wearing gloves. There are those times though that you get caught unaware, by a large temperature drop.
 

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Also, how hard is it to add the factory heated grips to my 2016 ES?
Or should I just go aftermarket?
I just bought a standard 2017 ST yesterday. Worked the OEM heated grips into the price...they're around $500 installed. Aftermarket is cheaper, but adding he Yamaha grips makes them "plug and play" with the menu/selector, just like they are on the ES. Well worth it to me.
 

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There has been no change to the bike except color since 2014 with the release of the second generation that year. I have a 2014 and looking to sell it in the Spring for the BMW R1250GS..........unless Yamaha gets on the stick and does something major to the S10!!
 

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Someone told me that access to the diagnostics mode from the instrument panel has been eliminated/defeated from the 2016 models and newer. Is it true?
 

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There has been no change to the bike except color since 2014 with the release of the second generation that year. I have a 2014 and looking to sell it in the Spring for the BMW R1250GS..........unless Yamaha gets on the stick and does something major to the S10!!
Ah! The BMW R1250GS, better known as The Emperor’s New Clothes.......! In U.K., in the first reviews, it hasn’t done significantly better than the outgoing R1200GS and has been shown to drink more fuel too. Power comes at a cost.
 

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There's another thread somewhere, where Goldwing talks about how much he DOESN'T like the Tenere, and how great the Beemer is.
 

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There's another thread somewhere, where Goldwing talks about how much he DOESN'T like the Tenere, and how great the Beemer is.
I agree, the Beemer is a great bike. I came from an RT to the S10. That being said, I still see nothing wrong with the S10. If I wanted to REALLY nitpick, I could say the Beemer has a heated seat and the S10 doesn't and the S10's external temp gauge needs to be relocated.
 

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Crazy that Yamaha does not list heated grips on their web page. I asked the dealer, he did not know, until we started going through the menus.
 

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Nope ES only in 18 not sure on the rest of years.
From the Yamaha website for the 2018 ST non-ES:
  • Assured Braking
    Super Ténéré has both an Antilock Braking System (ABS) and Unified Braking System (UBS). With UBS, squeezing the front brake lever also provides some rear-wheel braking; pressing the rear brake first overrides UBS for traditional separate front and rear braking action.
 

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If I wanted to REALLY nitpick, I could say the Beemer has a heated seat and the S10 doesn't and the S10's external temp gauge needs to be relocated.
And therein lies part of the problem. The Super Tenere does NOT have an external temp gauge. The ambient temp is from the airbox temp gauge used for the EFI system. I seem to recall it's tweaked a little, but it's usually off because it's reading intake air temp not true ambient air temp from outside.

The 1250 comes with stock seat heat? Kind of awkward, since stock seats traditionally suck for anyone putting down miles.
 

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I usually just look at the top of my gloves...

1 - if they have ice on them, it's too cold to ride
2 - if they are on fire, it's too hot to ride.

:)
 
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