Warranty / Design issue? Nah... if you buy a jeep and run it off a cliff it's not a warranty / design issue... just bad luck.
Chalk up another one to the OEM skidplate...
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How true.. But there are those that think the factory should cover it anyway.. ::025::Mellow said:
That skid ::008:
late is a work of art! Where can I get one?
late is a work of art! Where can I get one?
If you are talking about JaimeV's, lust will get you nowhere. (from what I understand)1Fishcat said:That skid ::008:
But, have no fear, if you really really really want frame mount protection like his, just ask for Jaxons (Tabasco) Beast Protection.
My personal opinion is Jaxons is even more protective, but not as sexy as this one.
Bet Jaxon could dress it up with all those same geometric cutouts and it would start to appeal a bit more to me. Hmmmmmmm.
What ya think Mr. ADVrider?
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Watching this video makes me realize I will never touch the potential of this bike.Checkswrecks said:
It’s an ACD (made in Spain) prototype. Hope they give me this week the second and hopefully definitive version to test it and then put it into production.1Fishcat said:That skid ::008:
They want to be ready to sell it before September ends. I will inform you.
I don't know why you say that :question:snakebitten said:
IMHO the more protective one is the Rumbux with his framed skid plate, the Jaxon’s and hope ACD will be another alternative.snakebitten said:
We are trying to find a good combination between solid protection and rally looking design so we hope to have a sexy-strong-protective enough frame mounted skid plate.
Sure he can but I think he has made his choice: protection first. The Ride On ADV skid plate looks solid like a rock.snakebitten said:
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What I notice in the original post link, is a bunch of 300-440 lb bikes and one 600 lb bike. I've played that game too, and it's a recipe for bike damage on the heavy bike. With some notable exceptions, I take the S10 the same places and same roads on or off pavement that I took my FJR. The difference is that the FJR was going slower and a lot more was bouncing off the underside of the bike. In that light, the S10 works great for me. I used to be coming back down an ugly two track, only to find a GS parked at the side of the road, because it's rider didn't want to ride up what I had already ridden on the FJR. This says nothing about what either bike is suited for, or could do, just what the riders were willing to do or go. ???
Cast aluminum sump + hard hit = broken sump. It doesn't help that the bike is heavy too. The sump mounted skid plates are 'gravel protectors', not things you can hammer on and bottom the bike into the ground or a rock with hope to ride home w/o trial side repairs.
Cast aluminum sump + hard hit = broken sump. It doesn't help that the bike is heavy too. The sump mounted skid plates are 'gravel protectors', not things you can hammer on and bottom the bike into the ground or a rock with hope to ride home w/o trial side repairs.
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That guy could probably ride a V-Star through that, but that doesn't make it a dirt bike.Checkswrecks said:
I still say that the Tenere was not intended for anything gnarlier than a gravel road.
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Same here ::001::MidlifeMotor said:
That guy it's me!!!MrTwisty said:
And I don’t want to do this with a V-Star ::005:: ::005:: ::005::
When I had the GSA I had the same discussion in the BMW forums, people who can’t do off road with the bike say is because is not intended for this.
With the GSA I rode thousands miles in difficult places, desert, rocks.... and don’t have any problems with it.
An example:
R1200GS Off road Enduro
So, if I can do this with this bike (and I can tell you I’m not the only one) and the bike doesn’t broke, probably it means the bike can do more than gravel roads, don’t you think?
The Super Tenere is much better off roader than the GSA so I’m going to have more fun with it even if someone who can’t do it say this bike is not designed for this.
Of course I’m going to avoid hits in the sump because is not covered with the guarantee.. ::025::
More videos showing this bike can do more than gravel roads ::008::
http://www.youtube.com/user/Tenerextz660?feature=mhee
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Oh, I can do off-road. My question is why risk riding a big, expensive adventure bike throgh such terrain? You are obviously a very competent rider and handle the big Tenere well. I'm not great, but I'm a little better than average and I'm pretty sure I could take my Tenere down the same trail, but I just wouldn't.JaimeV said:That guy it's me!!!
And I don’t want to do this with a V-Star ::005:: ::005:: ::005::
When I had the GSA I had the same discussion in the BMW forums, people who can’t do off road with the bike say is because is not intended for this.
Prior to the Tenere, I had a KTM 950 Adventure and I did some pretty gnarly stuff on it, but the KTM blows the Tenere away off-road. The Tenere is a much better street bike, and that's why I switched, but it was a tough decision and I kinda miss the KTM.
Even the KTM Adventure sucks when the trail gets technical, so for true off-road riding I have this:
It's the right tool for the job. Maybe once the new wears off my Tenere I'll feel differently and take a few more risks with it, but right now I'd hate to drop it.
To be honest I never had a problem with the OEM plate. I will confess I never attempted to jumps logs, split rocks of curb jump with it on. I understood from the onset what it was capable of preventing or causing. It was good for gravel roads and light off road. I will hang on to it. I replaced it with an Altrider when I had my Colorado\Utah trip planned last month. I did skin up and ding up the Alrider while in CO. Nothing serious, one tiny dent with a scrape mark about 2" long on the bottom. I never felt that happen. A few impact dings but it did it's job. I never intended on taking the Tenere across Black Bear pass and the steps : instead I took a DR650 for that. At my body size I respect the girth of the Tenere off road. I have rode dirtbikes my entire life and know the difference between a dirtbike and a streetbike. The Tenere is a capable streetbike IMO and with common sense can be ridden in some hairy places just not on mine. Gravel road and a some not so hilly or slick single track is where I draw the line on mine. If it needs exploring that bad I will happily return on the DR650 at a later date.
instead I took a DR650 for that. At my body size I respect the girth of the Tenere off road. I have rode dirtbikes my entire life and know the difference between a dirtbike and a streetbike. The Tenere is a capable streetbike IMO and with common sense can be ridden in some hairy places just not on mine. Gravel road and a some not so hilly or slick single track is where I draw the line on mine. If it needs exploring that bad I will happily return on the DR650 at a later date.Because in an real adventure ride you never know where you are going to be forced to go.MrTwisty said:
Ok, you wouldn’t but the bike canMrTwisty said:
Agree, the KTM is better off-road, but if you improve the ST suspensions and add a 21” front wheel the difference is not so big. I know you bought the ST as a street bike and you want use it for this, ok, do it is also a great street bike but they are better street bikes if you want to do only this.MrTwisty said:
Agree, I have a DRZ-E to do enduro and is a great fun but since I have the ST it stays in the garage most of is time. Also not everybody can be so lucky to have two bikes.MrTwisty said:Even the KTM Adventure sucks when the trail gets technical, so for true off-road riding I have this:
It's the right tool for the job.
Put some good protections and try it you won’t regret, you can go far away from your home in a highway, have greats moments riding slowly taken pictures in the countryside, have fun riding hard and come back home with a single bike. Try to do this with your KTM450 (incredible bike, you're very lucky!! )MrTwisty said:
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Maybe a mounting system for the oem skidplate that attaches to the frame could be designed??
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Due to the possible locations for mounting to the frame, and the limited mounting locations on the oem skidplate, it would be more complex and expensive than just a subframe with a simple skid plate mounted to it, or Jaxson's full on rigid unit. If you look at the three frame mounted skid plates, each has a different variation of mounting and ideas on protection. It would be very difficult to incorporate any of those mounting methods with the oem skid plate.RockyDS said:
I have several hundred miles to go to get anywhere near decent tracks and trails.
The small light off-roader only works if your close to some off-roading, then again what is "off-roading", I am sure the Tenere will fare far better on rough terrain than an R1 or Fazer, but not so well as a WR, then again how well will a WR work with two people on board and 30 kg of luggage - and 3,000 miles to cover in a fortnight :question:
Why do people keep comparing it to motocrossers and Enduro bikes - something it plainly is not, otherwise Yamaha would not have them in the line-up.
The small light off-roader only works if your close to some off-roading, then again what is "off-roading", I am sure the Tenere will fare far better on rough terrain than an R1 or Fazer, but not so well as a WR, then again how well will a WR work with two people on board and 30 kg of luggage - and 3,000 miles to cover in a fortnight :question:
Why do people keep comparing it to motocrossers and Enduro bikes - something it plainly is not, otherwise Yamaha would not have them in the line-up.
::026:: Do it, it makes it stupid fun off road in the right hands!snakebitten said:
Strange that isn't it?Rasher said:
On the other hand those motocrosses and Enduro's are just a POS compared to a 90Kg trials bike. Way too much weight. Real porkers.
Patiently waiting for more word on this thing! ::017::JaimeV said:So... I'm not going to spend any time arguing if this bike is good or not to do off road, to me YES and that’s why I want a good frame mounted skid plate as I have now.
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Have to put my 2 cents in. I'm 54, been riding since I was 16. Had a bit of an eye opener at the Whitehorse trip. Went riding with two young guys and one guy that road like a young guy Mike, Ryan and Karl. Have to tell you it was the most fun I have ever had on a bike. These guys showed me what the bike is capable of and what I wasn't capable of. Go have some fun get it dirty.
