Chalk up another one to the OEM skidplate...

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I wonder. Is Yamaha stepping up and covering the issue? Surprised they havent come up with a better design yet? ::010::
 

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Really. Yamaha shoukd take them off the market and replace them with one the is frame only mounted.
I don't ride in areas that would poss a problem but when i bought my Tenere from the owner of my dealership he told me I could take anything off i did not want or get a 30 percent off on the parts that were on the bike at the time. The skid plate was the first thing to come off then the Yamaha bags.
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wfopete said:
Stepping up? Ha, ha; that's rich! ::015:: BTW the better design is called thier WR line up!
Yep. Believe it or not, the Tenere is a street bike. If you choose to take it places it wasn't really designed to go, that's your prerogative, but you'd better purchase some protection before you do.
 

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MrTwisty said:
Yep. Believe it or not, the Tenere is a street bike. If you choose to take it places it wasn't really designed to go, that's your prerogative, but you'd better purchase some protection before you do.
If Yamaha considers this a street bike, why do they make a skip plate for it? ::007:: they should discontinue it, god forbid someone actually use it for its intended use. ::010::
 

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Koinz said:
If Yamaha considers this a street bike, why do they make a skip plate for it? ::007:: they should discontinue it, god forbid someone actually use it for its intended use. ::010::
They put a skid plate on it for the same reason car factories put graphics & hood scoops on cars; stupid people think there buying something other than a point A to B vehicle. The problems start when an S10 owner puts anything rougher than a dirt road between point A & B ::025:: ::025:: ::025::
 

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Re: Re: Chalk up another one to the OEM skidplate...

MrTwisty said:
That's why I spent a small fortune on a RideOnADV skidplate. It bolts to the frame, not the engine.
http://www.rideonadv.com/Ride_On_Adv/Home.html
This ⇧⇧

Yeah, you boobs...that's why Yamaha did extensive off road testing during the development this bike....because it's 'just a street bike.'

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Yamaha got a clue during thier "Off Road Development" & figured out it was alot cheaper to make the S10 look like a off road bike rather than actually make it one. Combine one street bike with cheap plastic/stickers & voila! Instant faux adventure whatever bike this is! S10 buyers gobbled it up hook, line & oil pan!
 

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Yamaha didn't develop the skid plate, a contract supplier did.


No matter what Yamaha does at this point, if anybody trusts one of these OEM skidplates, they must have their head in the sand by this point.
 

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Street Bike. Off-Road bike. Not Off-Road bike. Adventure Bike.

The debate (and bogus insults) continue.

It makes sense though. The Super Tenere confuses some folks. And you gotta admit, it can be hard to define exactly what it really is.

To expand on what I am trying to say, let's play pretend for a second. Imagine the S10 being somehow introduced, just as it is today, back in say.....1981.

We only need 1 caveat; we need for it to be shod with a tire that was not even imagined back then either. Let's use the K60's. (Something I would relish Yamaha doing today! Just to spite folks)

Now, take your time and think about what our perception back then would be.
(I had just purchased a brand new GS1000E. Black. A bike heralded for it's world class handling)

Ok, now, how different would the comments be then than they are now?

It would be even more confusing, wouldn't it? Is it a street bike? Is it a dirt bike?
Heck, even the ~100 HP would have been SuperBike territory. Man would it cause a stir. :)



Now, back to the present..........
The thing that I find amazing is that it is just so hard to say what the beast ISN'T!

So many want to claim what it isn't. While I'm amazed at all the things it IS!

I've seen what it is with street tires for about 8000 miles of riding. I've seen what it is with K60's for about 10,000 miles of riding. I am so tempted to put big fat nasty knobbies on it and see what it is then.
 

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snakebitten said:
Street Bike. Off-Road bike. Not Off-Road bike. Adventure Bike.

The debate (and bogus insults) continue.

It makes sense though. The Super Tenere confuses some folks. And you gotta admit, it can be hard to define exactly what it really is.

To expand on what I am trying to say, let's play pretend for a second. Imagine the S10 being somehow introduced, just as it is today, back in say.....1981.

We only need 1 caveat; we need for it to be shod with a tire that was not even imagined back then either. Let's use the K60's. (Something I would relish Yamaha doing today! Just to spite folks)

Now, take your time and think about what our perception back then would be.
(I had just purchased a brand new GS1000E. Black. A bike heralded for it's world class handling)

Ok, now, how different would the comments be then than they are now?

It would be even more confusing, wouldn't it? Is it a street bike? Is it a dirt bike?
Heck, even the ~100 HP would have been SuperBike territory. Man would it cause a stir. :)



Now, back to the present..........
The thing that I find amazing is that it is just so hard to say what the beast ISN'T!

So many want to claim what it isn't. While I'm amazed at all the things it IS!

I've seen what it is with street tires for about 8000 miles of riding. I've seen what it is with K60's for about 10,000 miles of riding. I am so tempted to put big fat nasty knobbies on it and see what it is then.
::026::
Amen, brother, amen!

I had bought a new XL500 at the time, so I know what camp I would have been in when categorising the S10 beast.
 

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wfopete said:
Yamaha got a clue during thier "Off Road Development" & figured out it was alot cheaper to make the S10 look like a off road bike rather than actually make it one. Combine one street bike with cheap plastic/stickers & voila! Instant faux adventure whatever bike this is! S10 buyers gobbled it up hook, line & oil pan!
Why do you come to this forum?
 

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MidlifeMotor said:
Why do you come to this forum?
::026::

Ok so the OEM plate may be the least protective plate out there. I went with the Altrider because I believe it to be much stronger. But I'm very aware that I can not alow the S10 to high center. If I do it's my fult not the bikes. In the absence of specific information I'm blameing the riders for these sump bashing hits not the bike.
 

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wfopete said:
They put a skid plate on it for the same reason car factories put graphics & hood scoops on cars; stupid people think there buying something other than a point A to B vehicle. The problems start when an S10 owner puts anything rougher than a dirt road between point A & B

Really?
Better go tell the Aussies, SA, & others who ride it like this:
Yamaha Super Ténéré off road


Looks like less than a dirt road from about 2:20 in.
 

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The VIN on the S10 signifies it as a dual purpose bike. My insurance company called me back after I gave them the VIN to check that the one I gave them was correct as their database showed it to be an on & off road vehicle.

Now maybe this is all just insurance speak but somebody who knows nothing about riding a motorcycle knew that it was a dual purpose bike. That has to come down from Yamaha. I would think.
 

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dcstrom said:
It's not clear to me what happened with this one - it's not the usual mounting-point-ripping-out-of-the-sump phenomenon. I can see the crush zones are, well, crushed, so maybe ot was just a big hit?

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19449103&postcount=305
If you look at the skid plate rear supports you can see they have been flattered by the hits. I have the same problem with the demo bike I had before purchasing my ST, I saw them exactly like this (luckily was a press bike and I said to the dealer: look what they did this savages from the press!!! ;) >:D).
Then I realized I can’t have the OEM skid plate for my type of riding.
The other problem the ST has is this support in the sump marked Nr 2:




it’s the lower point so in a big hit it suffers all the pressure in a single point. I'm thinking in cut it off to avoid this.
Is the same crack this sump had:



So... I'm not going to spend any time arguing if this bike is good or not to do off road, to me YES and that’s why I want a good frame mounted skid plate as I have now.

 
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