It was my way of saying that no matter how bad he wants one like yours, he can't have it. It's not available.JaimeV said:
Lust = i want it.
Chalk up another one to the OEM skidplate...
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Lust = i want it.
Oh YES! So how much TC blinky do you get on tarmac with that?Brntrt said:::026:: Do it, it makes it stupid fun off road in the right hands!
::026::EricV said:
OEM skid plate is ok for easy dirt and gravel tracks but no more. But also other sump mounted skid plates. You must know big hits with a heavy bike like the ST could break the sump.
::026:: You’re absolute right I don’t understand why. :Rasher said:
EXACTLY!!!! ::012::GrahamD said:
Witch tires are this? They look really good. I don’t think I can find this in Spain for 17” wheel. Only have the TKC and Karoo’s.Brntrt said:::026:: Do it, it makes it stupid fun off road in the right hands!
::012:: ::012::limey said:
Muddy like pigs!!! great fun ::008::
Ok, sometimes it make me difficult to understand (limited english :-[) Thankssnakebitten said:It was my way of saying that no matter how bad he wants one like yours, he can't have it. It's not available.
Lust = i want it.
Let's see if Spain is returning from august holidays (everything stops :
and they finish it.
It's a Mita E09 Dakar. The size is 140/70/17. It's awesome in the dirt, OK on the tarmac and a bit squirmy in the rain(what knobby isn't).JaimeV said:
Not to bad, it will break loose exiting turns hard in 1st and 2nd. It's actually OK on tarmac.snakebitten said:
Thanks for info. So where did a fella in North Georgia get his Mita?Brntrt said:
I got a new K60 still wrapped on back porch. Might have to save it for a few (FEW?) Kmiles later.
Gnarly Parts in Canada. They were on closeout. You can also purchase from MX1Canada but their shipping is a bit high!snakebitten said:Thanks for info. So where did a fella in North Georgia get his Mita?
I got a new K60 still wrapped on back porch. Might have to save it for a few (FEW?) Kmiles later.
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For Mitas Tires in the USA:
http://www.mx1canada.com/mitas-dual-sport-and-adventure-tires/
Sure the shipping seems high, but the tires are cheap. A pair of the Mitas Dakars shipped still comes in notably less than K60's ($285 for E-09's).
What kind of mileage do you get on these?
http://www.mx1canada.com/mitas-dual-sport-and-adventure-tires/
Sure the shipping seems high, but the tires are cheap. A pair of the Mitas Dakars shipped still comes in notably less than K60's ($285 for E-09's).
What kind of mileage do you get on these?
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Do they not make a front tire?Brntrt said:
http://www.mx1canada.com/mitas-e09-dakar-dual-sport-rear-tire.html
never mind. found it.
http://www.mx1canada.com/product.php?productid=18252
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This is what I would've expected. Yamaha says it's a dual sport bike and they offer an OEM Skid Plate to protect said dual sport bike, but it doesn't? They should either not provide a skid plate or don't build a dual sport bike with a less than robust pan on it. ::010::dcstrom said:
Manufacturers warrant their products against defects in manufacturing, not damage. No matter how that damage occurs...Koinz said:
I mean, should they warranty you riding full-bore into a tree? That could certainly happen in the woods - would it be the Yamaha's fault?
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Not a great example, but I get your point. ??? ;Dcreggur said:
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I think that warranty option costs 50 dollars more and covers some light dental work.creggur said:
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Might be important here to mention a little reminder...
The manufacturer's "warranty" is nothing more than an *insurance policy*, and you most definitely pay for it. Somewhere in the price of the bike is an amount the manufacturer's accounting department sets aside to go into a risk pool that will cover their costs in repairing that model year run of their bikes. It's money they hope they never have to spend, but "warranty" repairs are nothing more than a built-in cost of designing, manufacturing, and selling their product.
Now, as with just about *ANY* insurance policy, the insurance *agent* or *adjuster* - in this case the manufacturer or its representatives - can choose to pay, or reject, any *claims* that are made. Some are mapped out quite clearly and there is never much discussion about, while others are a bit less clear whether they will be covered or not. Sometimes something may not appeared to have a snowball's chance in hell of being covered, but the manufacturer does so, maybe out of no other reason than *goodwill*... While other times they don't want to pay a certain claim, but some outside entity - a lawyer, a court, a government, etc. - places some sort of pressure on the manufacturer and it becomes easier and less expensive for them to simply pay the claim rather than continue to contest it...
Again, just like any other insurance policy from any other insurance company.
It all comes down to whether they choose to pay an individual claim or not, and often there is no rhyme or reason as to which ones they will, or won't, pay.
As for the example of "riding full bore into a tree"... Well, on the surface that would almost always appear something that would *NOT* be covered under the warranty *policy*. But what if some genuine manufacturer's "defect in material or workmanship" was what actually caused the crash? I mean, should the warranty *policy* then simply cover replacement and repair of the part that caused the crash, or of also all the other parts and pieces damaged in the crash?
That's why each and every warranty claim is subject to interpretation, review, and possibly debate.
In the case of Yamaha possibly covering sump damage due to the design of their accessory skid plate... I can certainly see it. Maybe not every time, and maybe it just had to be the right Yamaha service rep who decided to cover it. Point is, as with any other insurance policy, it really is going to be almost on a case-by-case basis.
Just FYI...
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Might be important here to mention a little reminder...
The manufacturer's "warranty" is nothing more than an *insurance policy*, and you most definitely pay for it. Somewhere in the price of the bike is an amount the manufacturer's accounting department sets aside to go into a risk pool that will cover their costs in repairing that model year run of their bikes. It's money they hope they never have to spend, but "warranty" repairs are nothing more than a built-in cost of designing, manufacturing, and selling their product.
Now, as with just about *ANY* insurance policy, the insurance *agent* or *adjuster* - in this case the manufacturer or its representatives - can choose to pay, or reject, any *claims* that are made. Some are mapped out quite clearly and there is never much discussion about, while others are a bit less clear whether they will be covered or not. Sometimes something may not appeared to have a snowball's chance in hell of being covered, but the manufacturer does so, maybe out of no other reason than *goodwill*... While other times they don't want to pay a certain claim, but some outside entity - a lawyer, a court, a government, etc. - places some sort of pressure on the manufacturer and it becomes easier and less expensive for them to simply pay the claim rather than continue to contest it...
Again, just like any other insurance policy from any other insurance company.
It all comes down to whether they choose to pay an individual claim or not, and often there is no rhyme or reason as to which ones they will, or won't, pay.
As for the example of "riding full bore into a tree"... Well, on the surface that would almost always appear something that would *NOT* be covered under the warranty *policy*. But what if some genuine manufacturer's "defect in material or workmanship" was what actually caused the crash? I mean, should the warranty *policy* then simply cover replacement and repair of the part that caused the crash, or of also all the other parts and pieces damaged in the crash?
That's why each and every warranty claim is subject to interpretation, review, and possibly debate.
In the case of Yamaha possibly covering sump damage due to the design of their accessory skid plate... I can certainly see it. Maybe not every time, and maybe it just had to be the right Yamaha service rep who decided to cover it. Point is, as with any other insurance policy, it really is going to be almost on a case-by-case basis.
Just FYI...
Dallara
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Aw, hell - that's the kind of examples I give when I'm three Long Island Iced Teas in and I'm watching football. ;DKoinz said:
Actually Dallara has the whole thing nailed. I've dealt with service reps in the car biz that will cover anything, and some that would deny nearly everything. Often it is luck of the draw of the dealership/factory service rep - as to what's covered and what's not... One of the reasons dealerships are skiddish with warranty is that manufacturers keep their warranty policy and procedures perfectly vague and ever-changing, leaving them an out to deny nearly anything - the dealership eats the cost of the repair when it's denied. That's how it is in the car biz anyway...
It's a fun game!