Anyone know if the 2020 will be updated?

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Just curious if there have been any press releases on the 2020 Super Tenere and if it’s going to receive any updates. Would love to see it somehow have better wind management and a larger Fuel tank. Like an 8 gallon tank. Anyone heard of anything?




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I seem to recall the dealer meetings on the new model year are in late Sept. Someone will know that.

Forget about both of your hopes. ;) It's an adventure bike, wind management is not much of a factor. They slapped an adjustable windscreen bracket on the same old Gen I nose for the Gen II bikes, (bad idea, father forward does NOT help). And if you want 8 gallons, do what I have done. Fuel cell or an expanded OEM tank. Stark Welding in St George, 435-231-1820 / starkweldingllc@gmail.com might do another one. He did mine, but it will probably cost you closer to $1k for the welding. Plus a tank, plus cleaning after the welding is done, (I had a radiator shop dip it to clean it fully), then paint or what ever you prefer. I had mine LineX coated by Red Desert.

I can point you to a fuel cell builder that does Super Ten fuel cells too. PM me if you want info.

Put some side wind deflectors on if you haven't already. They do help.

Who knows if Yamaha will update. It's still a little early for an update and they are focused on the 2021 release of the T-7 in the US. It will probably be BNC, (bold new colors or in the Super Ten, LESS color). Maybe 2020 will be the year where the only color on the Super Ten is the tank?
 

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I genuinely doubt we will ever see a replacement or significant update for the big Tenere. Either they keep it on life support like the FJR or kill it.
 

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With no preliminary build up from Yamaha about a redesign this close to the release of the 2020 models. it's a safe bet we aren't going to see anything new for the S10. Frankly, I'd be floored if we saw anything beyond color changes for the next few years, assuming that Yamaha elects to keep making the Super Tenere. For reasons that kind of elude me, this bike is the red headed stepchild of the ADV market; rarely mentioned in the press that covers ADV bikes, and when it is mentioned, it's always along the lines of, "oh yeah, the Super Tenere...we didn't see you sitting over there.....yeah, it's a competent bike, but kind of meh". I get the impression, which I can't back up because I don't have access to sales figures, that Yamaha sells just enough of them to keep it profitable to keep making them but not enough to make it financially worthwhile to put a lot of money into updates.

I hope they keep making them, even if they don't change them. I have maybe two or three more riding seasons and I'll be hitting 100,000 on mine. I'll probably be ready to replace it by then, and I have no idea what other bike I'd get that would suit me as well, and that has the solid reliability of the S10.
 

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I bet the only changes they might do are bells and whistles, like new plastics and colors. Well, maybe - MAYBE, LED headlights. But, I don't expect improved suspension or rims - expensive stuff I'd like to save at by not paying for OEM in the first place.
 

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Yamaha and the other Japanese builders are famously tight lipped till THEY want the world to know soemthing. I know the working staff at Yam North America knew nothing when I spoke with my person last time but couldn't imagine the the model would be killed.

Yamaha runs a fairly regular update cycle and the Super T is 1-2 years overdue. According to the same person, this may be due to releasing other new models over the last couple of years or it could be due to the desire to release both Teneres together, the new 700 and updated 1200.

Yam typically tells the dealer network and world at the Fall/Winter at the big trade shows. The first is AIMExpo in Columbus Ohio in a couple of weeks so we'll just need to wait and see.
 

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I've always thought the S10 occupies a very narrow niche that makes it hard to sell. It used to be too expensive to appeal to the crowd that ends up leaning towards a DL1000 (their prices are a lot closer together now), and it was just expensive enough that, if you were torn between an S10 and a GS or a Tiger 1200 or some other bike with a little more built in recognition, that GS or Triumph didn't seem that much more expensive than the Yamaha when you looked at a monthly payment. If you don't know much about adventure bikes, and haven't done a ton of research, the GS has a huge advantage in name recognition, where the Yamaha seems to elicit that "huh, what kind of bike is that?" reaction. I think Yamaha has done a poor job of marketing the bike as a "BMW Killer" as they originally proposed it; I've never been in a Yamaha shop that even had a poster of one on the wall, or any sales literature on the floor for one. The old Yamaha dealer I went to before it closed had only sold one in the entire time the model has existed. The S10 just seems to fall between the cracks, both with the buying public and the motorcycle journalists.
 

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I've always thought the S10 occupies a very narrow niche that makes it hard to sell. It used to be too expensive to appeal to the crowd that ends up leaning towards a DL1000 (their prices are a lot closer together now), and it was just expensive enough that, if you were torn between an S10 and a GS or a Tiger 1200 or some other bike with a little more built in recognition, that GS or Triumph didn't seem that much more expensive than the Yamaha when you looked at a monthly payment. If you don't know much about adventure bikes, and haven't done a ton of research, the GS has a huge advantage in name recognition, where the Yamaha seems to elicit that "huh, what kind of bike is that?" reaction. I think Yamaha has done a poor job of marketing the bike as a "BMW Killer" as they originally proposed it; I've never been in a Yamaha shop that even had a poster of one on the wall, or any sales literature on the floor for one. The old Yamaha dealer I went to before it closed had only sold one in the entire time the model has existed. The S10 just seems to fall between the cracks, both with the buying public and the motorcycle journalists.
Can't blame the dealers, they put on the floor what people are interested in. The Super Tenere is boring and doesn't stand out in any way, that equals no energy in the product, and no sales. The Tenere 700 is the exact opposite and I expect them to sell a crap ton.

Unfortunately the big adventure market is pretty saturated at this point and would take something really interesting from Yamaha to make some sales.
 

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Well, I disagree with you there, Regder; sales are generated by getting the market interested in your product, not by relying on the public hearing about your product on their own. Dealerships are the sharp end of the spear when it comes to sales; if a customer comes in asking about a product and a dealership doesn't have anything on hand about the product, not even sales literature, then that's a potential lost sale. If the dealership doesn't even have product knowledge of a product offered for sale by the manufacturer, then that's a potential lost sale. It's silly to think that you can walk into a Yamaha dealer and not see promotional material for everything in their product line, or that you can ask a salesperson on the floor about a specific Yamaha and the salesperson knows nothing about it. For an excellent example of dealer promotion of a manufacturer's products, walk into a Harley dealership. They know their products, and they actively promote all of their line, not just a Fatboy or a Road King.

Whether or not an S10 is boring is a subjective opinion; I don't feel that way, but I'm sure others do. That's immaterial to how a product is sold. Toyota Corollas are boring, but that doesn't prevent Toyota from promoting them, or from them selling 32 million of them.
 

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I’ve said it before and will say it again if they would put a decent paint job on the Tenere it would sell a whole lot better. The current paint jobs make it look like a cobble job from a bunch of leftover parts.
 

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I seem to recall the dealer meetings on the new model year are in late Sept. Someone will know that.

Forget about both of your hopes. ;) It's an adventure bike, wind management is not much of a factor. They slapped an adjustable windscreen bracket on the same old Gen I nose for the Gen II bikes, (bad idea, father forward does NOT help). And if you want 8 gallons, do what I have done. Fuel cell or an expanded OEM tank. Stark Welding in St George, 435-231-1820 / starkweldingllc@gmail.com might do another one. He did mine, but it will probably cost you closer to $1k for the welding. Plus a tank, plus cleaning after the welding is done, (I had a radiator shop dip it to clean it fully), then paint or what ever you prefer. I had mine LineX coated by Red Desert.

I can point you to a fuel cell builder that does Super Ten fuel cells too. PM me if you want info.

Put some side wind deflectors on if you haven't already. They do help.

Who knows if Yamaha will update. It's still a little early for an update and they are focused on the 2021 release of the T-7 in the US. It will probably be BNC, (bold new colors or in the Super Ten, LESS color). Maybe 2020 will be the year where the only color on the Super Ten is the tank?
You have any photos of how your tank turned out? Also how much capacity does it have now?


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My 2009 FZ1 had the two tone paint like my 2019 ST. It does look like an older car with mismatched fenders or hoods. It's definitely not my first choice, but I've never considered color when buying a bike. I prefer not to stand out too much, though.
 

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You have any photos of how your tank turned out? Also how much capacity does it have now?
8.2 gal. I was more concerned with function. You could tweak some angles and make it a little prettier shape with similar capacity.

Since you asked, I wrote this up this morning. LINK
 

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Wanting to update my Gen 1 bike, I am waiting to see if there is any changes in the 2020 model year. If there is any, I would only expect some stuff off the FJR to be put on. The bike being rock solid as is, and in a place that Yamaha seems to like, doubt anything else.
 

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Yammy could decide to offer 2 different versions.... either simple ala V Stroms
Alloy wheel street version & the current spoked wheel trail version
Or...they could go one better ala Tiger & offer a bit more susp travel w/ 21" front 18" rear spoked wheels
Either version could benefit with an electronics upgrade....cornering ABS...switchable & multi mode TCS

A clutch/shifter upgrade would be just fine too

The fuel tank is large enuff now

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