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I would buy another in a heartbeat ::021::

Yep! Me too! ::001::
This is a great bike that always puts a smile on my face every time I get a chance to ride it. It's a nice package that Yamaha has put together for what I like to do. The wife loves it too and that's more than good enough for me. ;D

 

[MeefZah]

all my riding friends don't want to ride with me cause I have a scooter now, but the Tenere will be a better bike than what they own and I will get respect.

I am not here to have you guys to talk me into one cause I well understand you could care less if I would buy one or not, its nice to own a bike that nobody else owns, you get noticed, i understand that very well, so the less other people own the same bike you own the better it is for you,,,

but I am about substance and a bike that does everything well and pleases me, not showing it off, but at the same time to get some respect by the bike I own.

I'm not real sure how to take these comments but they strike me as sorta douchey.

 

[Tmax]

Thank You for the responces,, made me feel better about buying one, I want a Yamaha and the ONLY bike that Yamaha makes now that excites me is the Super Tenere,, just to remind you the price of $10,899 is for a last year leftover 2012 model thats still new, "0" miles and covered under full warranty, the 2013 model is $12,999.
I have good friends that own a Gold Wing and a touring HD and I am always left out when they make a long distance ride cause my Tmax isn't capable and I am sure the Tenere will fit in.
Motorcycle Dealers in my area are very desperate to sell bikes, I do know I could even get the price lower if I wait him out and wait late in the summer,,, "IF" the Super Tenere's he has on stock are not sold, thats how I got my Tmax at a reduced price of $5400 ,,so I am not in a hurry.

edit: My belief is spending your money when you have the money to spend cause in the future when maybe you won't have any money, you'll look back and regret it for not spending it on what you wanted,,, I have never regretted any past motorcycle I bought in the past cause all I think about is the pleasure and enjoyment those bikes gave me,,, as long as I have owned motorcycles and how good and experienced I am at riding one its a waste of my talents to ride a automatic scooter,,, you see? I am much better at riding a bike than half of the people out there and it hurts when guys that can't ride their big bike make fun of me for riding a scooter,,, I know I could take the bike they ride and make them look bad by riding it better than they can.
Tell me? Am I crazy for dreaming about the past motorcycles I have owned other than dreaming about naked women?
Its been a long cold winter in my parts and maybe I have that spring fever of getting my bike out

 

[FlaDave]

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Wow...I thought I had a good deal when I bought mine a month ago.
Coming off a KLR, I have no regrets so far. I've been very pleased overall.
Once I get the buffeting solved and finish tweaking the suspension, I'm gonna love it even more.
Go for it!

 

[Siseneg]

Guess I'd have to say that you should buy that machine sooner rather than later. Now that the word is out, there will be others that are very interested and they will share and someone else will be looking for it in PA. As you say, the dealer may be desperate and make a better deal ... but it may go to someone else The weather is getting nicer every day so more shoppers will be out there looking to pick up their summer ride.

 

[AlsoRan]

I have owned a few brands of motorcycles over the years and it is interesting how each manufacture has their own traits. The traits or characteristics of the Yamaha brand has for me been interestingly consistent over the years since 1969, and that is why I did not hesitate to go for it when Yamaha introduced a big adventure bike to the states. I looked at all of them, almost bought another brand but waited, and it's been a good thing because the Super T, my 10th Yamaha is showing the same behavior - with the biggest being RELIABILITY. Funny, I just treat it like all the others and no mechanical drama so far, from spokes to carbon there has been nothing, zip - zero. Maybe because it's an early one and possibly they were more careful I don't know, but I would buy another one tomorrow if I had to replace this one for some reason.

Great bike, so if you wait too long someones going to snap that one up that you are looking at.

 

[okiegtrider]

IF the Tenere is the bike you want, $10,899 is a smoking good deal. Everything I've looked at within 200 mi of my home is 2K higher than that. ::022::

 

[5270ADVRIDER]

That's a SMOKING deal! I work at a dealer and that's less than I can buy our NEW left over 2012 for. BUY IT NOW!!!!!

 

[Tmax]

4-10-13 update: I really love my Tmax soo much that its hard for me to part with it, last year I was offered $6000 for it so I have it online for sale, I figured it would be less painfull to me if I sold it for more than what I paid cause I see a lot of used bikes in the classified adds for sale where they are selling for much more than a new one. My Tmax is very valuable cause they are not sold in the U.S. anymore and they are reviewed as the best maxi scooter out there and the new BMW Scooter thats close to it sells for $12K.
I can't keep both cause I ran out of garage space.

 

[Checkswrecks]

With the uptick in the economy, spring, gas prices, etc, ALL used motorcycles and scooters are going up in price.
If you are serious about the Tenere, jump on it because that's a heck of a price even if it means a loan for a short while, and sell the Tmax after.

 

[MeefZah]

See, now I think this feller is just messing with us, or he's - as my teenage daughters say - basic.

 

[klunsford]

Hey TMax, welcome to the forum from Oklahoma. I made the just late last June and have not turned back. I ride to work most days and do a lot of on and off road. I have never had a bike that would do it all so well in my 40+ years of riding just about everything under the sun. I can get on it and do 1k a day or just go out for a comfortable spin for the afternoon. You won't regret it... ::022::

 

[Karson]

Sounds as if you're not ready to give up the Tmax yet - sentimental value b/c it's not sold in the US anymore and it's reviewed by others as the best maxi scooter out there. Some of the resale numbers you've given for the tmax alongside the otd price for the s10 would make anyone even halfway on the fence get the checkbook out/call the banker - While I've never ridden a big scooter, I can visually see drastic differences between the two. Seems apples to oranges to me.

What else does the Tmax have in a two-wheeled vehicle you like so much and are worried you might have to compromise on with the S10? I saw you mentioned extreme handling(?), low CG and good wind protection. Is the tmax luggage capable, have good tarball road characteristics (roll on acceleration, etc..), or remotely decent offroad handling? I just can't see it being good for anything other than a limited commuter vehicle (<60mph highway stuff). Yamaha markets it as freeway capable two-up - riiiight.

Going from a maxi?-scooter to an S10 is a pretty considerable demographic change. Aside from any specific things you require in a bike like really low seat height/ergos/weight, the S10 trumps the Tmax in every possible way i can picture. I'm confused a little that this is 3 pages long and you haven't come any closer to a conclusion yet. Personally, it's just not my idea of what compliments my lifestyle. So, maybe that's why it's more black and white for me. It'd be the same as asking folks on jk-forum.com if I should sell a prius for a new jeep wrangler 8 grand under list.

I'll leave it with this - In the end it's completely up to you, not what your friends think you should ride or an internet message board ::008::

 

[HoebSTer]

Tmax, I think it is plain shitty of your friends to say you can't ride along becuase you are on a scooter. Eat shit people!!! Last time I checked most riders of Goldwings and Harley's cruise around at or near speed limits even hwy speeds. I once rode with a guy on a Honda Silverwing scooter from Colorado to California and back while I was on my ST1300. I asked him during one stop how many rpm's he was turning at hwy speeds 70-80mph and he said almost 12,000rpm. He said he has ran that bike for over 10,000k miles like this and doesn't worry at all about it since it is a Honda. He kept right along with me on the road, and we had no problems. So again, I think the issue is with your friends, not your ride you have. Do what you want, but this bike is great as you have read.

 

[Tmax]

The Tmax scooter is very capable of touring long distance, I run it on a 260 mile round trip on a business dealing, it has excellent storage space under the seat plus I have a 50 L rear topcase,,, even take it grocery shopping, fit 7 full bags of groceries plus a case of soda. Took to the builders supply store and hauled 3 bags of ready mix concrete. Excellent protection from wind and rain, rode thru a thunderstorm and the only part of my body that got wet were my hands. Very comfortable like a lounge chair, not tired and worn out after a long ride, even have a cup holder, can drink a cup of hot coffee while riding,,(no clutch lever to worry about) Smooth and quiet, no wind noise, I can ride down the highway at 70 mph and hear the birds singing in the trees.
Just to make you guys understand why I love it and have second thoughts of parting with it, I looked at the new BMW scooter and looked at the price of $12K saying thats not worth that much where I can get a real serious bike like the Super Tenere for that price,,,and thats what gave me the idea of buying one. ( I mean you have to be crazy to spend $12K on a 650cc scooter when you can get a 1200cc Super Tenere for the same price,,, Right? ) Yamaha is my favorate brand,, its just when I look around the Yamaha showroom I look for a bike they make that I will like better than the Tmax I already own and the Super Tenere is the only one that comes close.
If Yamaha still sold the new 2013 Tmax I would pay ANY price for one, they do sell them in Canada, its a 530 Tmax now (they increased the engine from 500 to 530) it was disconinued in the U.S. cause of poor sales, nobody wanted one, but the few that are out there are well loved by their owners, thats why I got offered $6000 for mine

 

[snakebitten]

You may or may not like the Tenere in real life. But whether you ever get one or not, you should keep the Tmax.

Most riders buy several bikes in the riding lifetime and never find ONE that they can speak about the way you do of that scooter.

You were the Tmax bullseye. Dead center. That's a good thing.

 

[Tmax]

I have learned by past experiences you don't buy a bike just to impress others, you don't buy a bike based on what type of bike others approve of, you buy a bike that ONLY pleases YOU.
I really love my Tmax and nobody and nobody is impressed with it, whats also nice about it is nobody else owns one,,, thats what draws me to the Super Tenere, very few out there, nobody in my parts owns one. But I am afraid to buy it cause I may not like it later, dealer won't give me a test ride.
I visit this site to get something, looking for that spark, haven't found it yet cause I know no-matter what bike anybody owns they all think the one they own is the best, I see most motorcycle owners with limited experiences riding other bikes,,, so excuse me , I don't want to insult anybody,, frankly most guys don't know what a good bike is cause they was never riding many other bikes. Prime example; Everybody that owns the Suzuki V Strom 650 say it has the same power and performance as the V Strom 1000,,, I have ridden both bikes and thats not true, the 1000 is a night and day difference. I am being drawn toward the Suzuki V Strom 1000,,, ONLY because I did ride one in the past and I know what I am getting,,, the Super Tenere may be better, but never riding one I don't know that.
I feel as a better and more experienced rider than most people its a waste for me to own and ride a scooter, it drives me crazy when I see a beginner riding a top of the line motorcycle and he can't ride it, I have been on poker runs with a 1000 of other riders and I felt like I was the only experienced rider there how everybody slows down and the line backups for curves, I have passed top of the line crotch rockets on tight curves with my scooter,, its not the bike, that crotch rocket was very capable to take that curve much faster, its just the rider was inexperienced.
I have been riding motorcycles for a long-long time and I hate the way it has evolved where motorcyles have become more popular and designed to be easiser to ride, with much better handling and balance and most people still can't ride one,, I come from old school, I have learned to ride the older bikes that makes it feel much easiser to ride the newer bikes,, you know what I mean? When you're experienced on an older bike that handles like a horse wagon, it ten times easiser to ride the newer, lower center of gravity, balanced bikes.
Sorry if I insulted anybody by bragging and tooting my own horn, that was never my intension, just being honest and thinking someone that reads this would relate to me and understand without taking it personal like I was talking about them,, I understand the new riders, beginners don't like being told they can't ride. My favorate saying is: "Nice Bike Too Bad You Can't Ride It"

 

[Siseneg]

Tmax, it's taken me a while to absorb what I just read. While I don't feel 'insulted', I do have a couple of observations about your post and it has actually stirred a bit of defensiveness on my part for the fine riders I have the privilege that be associated with here on the forum.

There are some generalizations which are patently incorrect on your part, but first the correct parts: Yes, you should buy a machine that pleases ONLY you. Yes motorcycles have evolved and handle better and are easier to ride.

Now, some things I don't quite understand: One on line you say "I really love my Tmax" and later you say "it's a waste for me to own and ride a scooter".

"You say "nobody is impressed with it". Does that include you? I read a couple of posts in this thread that say it's a very nice machine.

You said " Everybody that owns the Suzuki V Strom 650 say it has the same power and performance as the V Strom 1000..." Where did you get that information? Is there a survey out there, or have you polled a VStrom board/gathering? Your claim is a little hard to accept.

You said "...frankly most guys don't know what a good bike is cause they was never riding many other bikes." I disagree. If you would look at the signature lines for the members of this and other riders' forums you would readily see a large amount of experience with many different motorcycles. There are riders here that have been on two wheels since the 60's, have turned in hundreds of thousands of miles and know what mixing fuel and oil in a gas can, porting and piping and JBWeld is all about (now we do Carbon Monoxide adjustments and synchronize fly by wire throttle bodies). In defense of this board, it is the single most reliable source of valid technical and support information about these motorcycles in existence and one of the best forums I have ever been associated with (with apologies to SabreSailboat).

You said " looking for that spark, haven't found it ..." I don't believe you will, as long as you are depending on someone else to make your mind up for you. This is your decision. The board is for information, not for guidance counseling. YOU must be the one to decide what you want.

You said "I felt like I was the only experienced rider there how everybody slows down and the line backups for curves " With your superior riding skills, why were you not out front?

You said "When you're experienced on an older bike that handles like a horse wagon, it ten times easiser to ride the newer, lower center of gravity, balanced bikes." This is true, as long as you are remaining at the same performance level as the old bikes. Push the new bikes to their performance limits and it is equally challenging; just much faster and with more air time. Horse wagon skills help, but will certainly not permit peak performance on a TCS/ABS equipped liter bike.

You said "... the Super Tenere may be better, but never riding one I don't know that." True again, so why would you seem so intent on convincing those of us that DO ride one that we don't really know about the Tenere?

You said "I feel as a better and more experienced rider than most people..." ... well, I have tried not to feel insulted, and I guess I am really not. But I feel compelled to offer that this attitude may be dangerous. You must ride your own ride; people who do that are not poorer riders, just mature enough to know their limits and ride within them. To ride better than most means I likely would have heard about you in a publication at some point, to ride like you a better than most may get you into an obituary.

You said " ...dealer won't give me a test ride." and I can understand this. If you spent as much time trying to convince a dealer of your superior riding skills and vast experience, it would throw into question the credibility of your true ability.

Now .. I hope that you are not insulted, it is not my intent. I just wanted to let this fly and share what my perception is; how this thread comes across to me and to state that I have the utmost respect for the riders and members of this forum. It is with that respect that these comments are offered.

 

[Rasher]

I reckon you may love the Super tenere, but it is so different that although it may do many things better your bound to miss some of the practicality of the Scoot.

Why not grab the S10 and keep the Scoot for a while, I can only keep one bike and the S10 is pretty damn good at most things, but I am sure for just popping to the shops or running around town a Scoot would be better - and it was pretty much designed for this purpose.

The S10 is designed to be good on tarmac of all sorts, handle well at all speeds, on all corner types - and then pull the same trick on unpaved roads, and have some true off-road ability. As well as that it is supposed to be good for both Solo riding and two-up riding, as well as motorway cruising etc. etc. etc.

As it is I can use it for chasing sportsbikes down well surfaced twisties, bouncing along on narrow, bumpy country lanes, commuting my 80 mile round trip (not in town) going for a weekend away solo with mates, riding some unpaved tracks, or taking two weeks out to ride 3,000+ miles around Europe with the Mrs on the back - asking it to also be the perfect shopping bike is maybe just asking a little too much - although it will do it, the Scoot is bound to do this one thing better.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Hey TMax: