Will you take the vaccine

In the UK we have one of the best vaccination rates in the world with over 80% adults fully vaccinated. We also currently have the highest number of new daily covid cases of any country in the world, and have had for the past few weeks.

WJBertrand said:

Must be a higher average IQ in Denmark than in the US

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In contrast to the US (among other countries) political standpoint only have a very small effect on peoples opinions about the vaccine.

What we do see here in Denmark is that there is a connection between educational and income level in relation to who is for or against the vaccine.

The shorter education and lower income you have, the more likely it is that you don't want the vaccine.

It's human nature to fear what you don't understand.

pooh and xtine said:

In the UK we have one of the best vaccination rates in the world with over 80% adults fully vaccinated. We also currently have the highest number of new daily covid cases of any country in the world, and have had for the past few weeks.

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I imagine that most of the new cases are non vaccinated people?

pooh and xtine said:

In the UK we have one of the best vaccination rates in the world with over 80% adults fully vaccinated. We also currently have the highest number of new daily covid cases of any country in the world, and have had for the past few weeks.

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But the deaths per 100,000 in the UK is now only 0.19.
While in the US with 54% immunized the same related death rate is 2.5 TIMES higher at .48 /100k.

Don T said:

In contrast to the US (among other countries) political standpoint only have a very small effect on peoples opinions about the vaccine.

What we do see here in Denmark is that there is a connection between educational and income level in relation to who is for or against the vaccine.

The shorter education and lower income you have, the more likely it is that you don't want the vaccine.

It's human nature to fear what you don't understand.

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Totally agree. Politics has (or should have) no relevance in that this is a medical/scientific issue. The politicizing of the disease and the vaccines has damaged our country's response, sewing doubt and distrust. The appalling dearth of even basic scientific literacy in the general public, leaves a large portion of folks malleable to politicians who would use this crises to advance their agendas, having nothing to do with Covid.

magic said:

. . . . If 75% were vaccinated this f*cking nightmare would probably be over. Hopefully Denmark will show the world how to beat this virus...we sure haven't.

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I didn't say I believed them. 'Cuz, yeah, if we were at 75%, I would expect things would be easing up. I also heard, unverified, that Israel is getting a handle on the virus with the 3rd/booster shot. MY doctor says yes on a 3rd shot. She also advised that as they learn more about the virus, they're finding that virus made antibodies are lasting longer than vaccine antibodies. And, that the virus antibodies might be permanent.

Scoop47501 said:

. . . . We were both Vaccinated . . . . . . . I respect anyone that does not want the vaccine but keep in mind that you are making your own luck. . . .

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I respect the fact that people have the choice. But, it's hard to respect people that won't get the vaccine when: 1) The vaccine is not a guarantee to prevent the virus; 94%-ish effective. Vaccinated people are catching the virus, but not getting as sick as the unvaccinated. 2) My grandchildren are too young to get the vaccination, and are therefore at risk.

Don T said:

I imagine that most of the new cases are non vaccinated people?

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That is the case around here; likely everywhere. The media put out that 95% of those in the hospital(s), are the unvaccinated, and children.

Sierra1 said:

I respect the fact that people have the choice. But, it's hard to respect people that won't get the vaccine when: 1) The vaccine is not a guarantee to prevent the virus; 94%-ish effective. Vaccinated people are catching the virus, but not getting as sick as the unvaccinated. 2) My grandchildren are too young to get the vaccination, and are therefore at risk.



That is the case around here; likely everywhere. The media put out that 95% of those in the hospital(s), are the unvaccinated, and children.

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same here too. Almost all cases are unvaccinated.

Listened to a local mother saying that she should make the decision about masks for her children. Problem is she is making that decision for everyone else’s kid’. HELLO! Masks protect others from you, not protect you from others

so frustrating to watch a train wreck

Anyone else seen Howard Stern's comments lately on the virus and the vaccine? Maybe he should run for president in 2024.

Wallkeeper said:

same here too. Almost all cases are unvaccinated.

Listened to a local mother saying that she should make the decision about masks for her children. Problem is she is making that decision for everyone else’s kid’. HELLO! Masks protect others from you, not protect you from others

so frustrating to watch a train wreck

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HELLO! If others are vaccinated, and the vaccine is effective, what are they worried about? And if you're vaccinated, and the vaccine is effective, why do you have to wear a mask?

(just trying to make sense of all this)

Wallkeeper said:

. . . . Masks protect others from you, not protect you from others . . . .

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I get that then masks are supposed to prevent you yuck from spraying out onto people. But, they also have to help, at least a little, to prevent your yuck from being breathed in. It should be a win-win.

thughes317 said:

HELLO! If others are vaccinated, and the vaccine is effective, what are they worried about? And if you're vaccinated, and the vaccine is effective, why do you have to wear a mask?

(just trying to make sense of all this)

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Because at 94%, six people out of every 100 that are vaccinated, will still catch the virus. Nothing is perfect. And, depending on individual genetics, you can have bad reactions . . . . or no reactions. Even if you've been vaccinated.

thughes317 said:

HELLO! If others are vaccinated, and the vaccine is effective, what are they worried about? And if you're vaccinated, and the vaccine is effective, why do you have to wear a mask?

(just trying to make sense of all this)

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I get what you are saying, the problem is right now no younger children are vaccinated at all. Sadly there are also folks out there claiming to be vaccinated that are not and are not wearing masks.

On a car forum I read, a member got covid last year and was quite sick for a month or so, then recovered. A month ago he again contracted covid and died. I don't know if he was vaccinated or not, but at least in his case, any antibodies from having the disease did not protect him from the second round. I also don't know if it was a variant that got him the second time. The virus is mutating, and it seems like if we don't really get rid of it, we will be dealing with potentially more deadly variants as time goes on.

In general, those that are vaccinated do not die if they catch the virus; not a guarantee. Once again, nothing is certain about this virus.

jbrown said:

The virus is mutating, and it seems like if we don't really get rid of it, we will be dealing with potentially more deadly variants as time goes on.

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Right on the root issue. We have to stop it or it will keep coming back worse every time

Our strategy in the UK migrated from initially “saving lives” then to “protecting the health service” and once we had done that, we stupidly settled on “preventing anyone from catching covid”. Unfortunately, you can still catch covid even if you’ve been vaccinated or have actually had covid. Therefore, if you keep testing huge numbers of people, you inevitably keep identifying tens of thousands who have it (even though the vast majority are either asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms). If your strategy is preventing anyone from getting it, you inevitably keep failing and have to introduce ever more restrictive measures to vainly try to reduce the number of cases.

The only way out of this is to finally accept that this is a cold which has mild or no symptoms for 90% of people and stop testing. Enough is enough, we have to get our lives and freedoms back.

Don T said:

I imagine that most of the new cases are non vaccinated people?

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No, many have been vaccinated, but most are children, who are essentially immune to covid.

pooh and xtine said:

No, many have been vaccinated, but most are children, who are essentially immune to covid.

. . . . this is a cold which has mild or no symptoms for 90% of people and stop testing. . . .

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Where in the f**k are you getting your information? Unless the people of the UK are completely different than everybody else. Some of those hospitalized have been vaccinated; most are not. Children are not immune, and this is not just a cold. And, I think you've confused the survivability percentage with no symptoms. Because if 90% of the people had little/no symptoms, they would not be going into the hospitals.

If you and your friends have caught it, had no symptoms, and recovered. . . . good for you. I've had too many friends die from it. And, I know numerous others that have survived, and would disagree with your no symptoms claim.

One of my friends who assisted a race team caught COVID-19, I guess nearly everyone on the team caught it and none of them were vaccinated, my friend also gave it to his brother who wound up dying a couple days ago, my friend recovered .
I have a few other friends that caught Covid-19, some were vaccinated some weren’t, my advice is definitely get vaccinated ! Here in Wisconsin they now are paying $100 to anyone willing to get vaccinated