wobbling during breaking slow speed

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All sounds good, but you don't mention the ABS - to save me running through the system in any detail, everything is explained in the Owner's Manual, which can be downloaded from Yamaha if you don't have it to hand.

Does the system function correctly? Warning lights, pulsing at the lever when braking heavily - I have known contamination of the ABS sensor/reluctor ring cause some strange symptoms, but these aren't visible on the Super10.

Otherwise I assume the front tyre is set correctly on the bead, the rim is running true when you spin the wheel & the spokes are all taught - they should have been checked for torque at service, but it is often forgotten.
Good point. The ABS is working normally and the spokes are tight.
 

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I think it's important to repeat:

Having some cupping is not necessarily an indicator of low tire inflation. If heavy breaking, it is actually normal wear.

Source: Dunlop tires: https://www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/about/faq/#faq-4 (underlining is mine :) )


Aside: I think it's hilarious that Dunlop tells you to avoid hard braking whenever possible ;)
I consider low pressure to be under 25psi on a large bike. I have been running the standard 32f/36r on all my street bikes with zero cupping. I agree with Dunlop's statement 100% . There are only three situations when hard braking is acceptable. On a track, collision avoidance, and testing in a controlled environment.
 

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One tip Brett did not share is never ever use a throttle paddle off road!

Oh and one of my favorites. A classic grab a handful of front brake and turn the bars with wheel locked up!!

 

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Dear community, I am happy to report that the wobbling at low speed breaking is gone after changing the front tire. Talking about changing the tire I have read that tires that are not balanced are prone to cupping. I did not balance the new tire but I think I will very soon.
Thank you everybody
Good on you!! I would have done the same thing. If my front tire starts to cup I'll change it out right away. In my 50+ years of riding I have never experienced a cupped front tire on any bike I've ridden or owned. The Super Tenere is at least 100 lbs heavier than anything I've had. So we will see....

I imagine part of the reason cupping has not been an issue is because I don't run down tires until they are worn out. I replace mine at the first sign of traction loss or ill handling traits. As far as balancing, I'm happy to report my Michielin's took only 1/2 oz to balance.
 

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Princess and the pea... Is this really an issue? Or is it a combination of speed and rpm? Knobby tires will wander, especially on gravel. This is not an issue.
 

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It is low speed (5 MPK or less) on tarmac. I am more worried about safety. I am about to start a long trip and I want to be safe. In my head it should not wobble at all.
 

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It is low speed (5 MPK or less) on tarmac. I am more worried about safety. I am about to start a long trip and I want to be safe. In my head it should not wobble at all.
Some tire patters do induce it. However, I think getting it properly checked out by a qualified mechanic is what you should do. Never ride when your heads not OK with what is going on.
 

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It is low speed (5 MPK or less) on tarmac. I am more worried about safety. I am about to start a long trip and I want to be safe. In my head it should not wobble at all.
Your head is mistaken. Its a tire. Below 5 MPH nothing you feel is a big deal. :) Any number of things could cause what you feel at under 5 mph and none of them impact actual riding at speed. To be brutally honest, if you spend any significant time at speeds under 5 mph, except when coming to a stop and taking off from a stop, you don't need this bike.

You're over thinking it. What do you think of as a long trip?

Edit - Even my wife laughed at this. Shinko 805 knobbies and you don't think you'll get some wobble at speeds under what counter steering works at? :D Of course, my wife rides her own bike, is an IBR veteran and has more miles on and off road than most of the riders on this forum.
 
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Wait 5 mph? I thought it was faster and with knobs its even worse, worse still if there not enough weight on the front tire. LOL
 

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Our OP is a transplanted European, it would appear. Mis-type or mixing KPH with MPH, I'm not sure, but either way this entire post has been about extremely low speed wobble that most any tire can exhibit.
 
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