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Stopped in at a Yamaha dealer in Hays, KS. He got very excited when he saw my S10 since he had actually never seen one. He told me he has 4 guys ready to write a check and buy one but Yamaha will not let him have any. Dealer said that he called other dealers but they either don't have any either or won't give him theirs. So, why would Yamaha not want to send S10s to the guy in Hays if he has customers ready to buy?? Does that make any sense?

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It does sound strange. Only thing I can think of is some issue with Regional reps or the trans recall simply needing to be done on bikes they otherwise would ship him. Sucks for him to lose business.

For the right price, I'll pick up a bike somewhere else and ride it to Hays. :D
 

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Last we checked Yamaha was sold out of all 15s and ES14s
We just got in a blue STD 14 , Only thing available.
 

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eemsreno said:
Last we checked Yamaha was sold out of all 15s and ES14s
We just got in a blue STD 14 , Only thing available.

Well, that would explain it. But, so much for the oft quoted argument that the S10 is not a big seller - if there are not enough of them being made then there won't be sales.

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When we were in Romney last month the owner told us that he was trying to get more of the 15 ES models, as he had just sold his last one and Yamaha told him that he may get one in June.

My dealer in Litchfield IL has a 15 standard and a 15 ES in stock.www.niehauscycle.com
 

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I think since the global economy took a plunge a few years back manufacturers have been reluctant to 'stock pile' large quantities of vehicles. They have a very good idea what will sell and if there is any doubt they'd rather make less than have them sitting on the main importers floor. The flip side is it should firm up residuals as there will be less models available on the second hand market. It's the same in the UK to a degree but we're never much more than about 100 miles from a dealer so not such an issue. Mind you in Japan they have to convert the US' models to right Hand Drive so maybe that's the hold up ::025::
 

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RonH said:
I don’t understand it either. You can go to the yamaha website and look at any of their motorcycles, then click on check dealer inventory, enter the zip code and see what dealer has that motorcycle in the area. In the area of Hays, KS it seems the nearest dealer is 200 miles away that has one. Contrast that to Denver where I am, I have 4 dealers whithin 20 miles and all 4 show stock of the 2015ES.

Dealers let Yamaha USA know how many they want to order, then Yam USA orders the quantity to be built and adds on an additional number that they calculate will sell. This implies that the Hayes dealer didn't pre-order and Yam USA's additional number was reduced and/or the inventory is probably gone or spoken for.


The dealers get their allotments and can buy from the additional stock IF additional exists. But more commonly, dealers in an area will trade each other one of this model for one of those. Dealers generally don't sell their stock to other dealers because then they are left without stock to sell. From the dealer perspective, they just need to pay an employee to take a pickup and swap boxes, rather than incur the cost of shipping from Southern California. Profit margins on the bikes themselves are generally pretty slim and if the other dealer is too far or wants too much for the bike he is trading then the first dealer is left without a bike.
 

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Yamaha USA also checks dealer inventory before approving new orders. Case in point is that my dealer wanted a 14 ES on the first shipment last year, but couldn't get one because they had 3 new 13's in stock. Dealers that got any on the first shipment could only order another on the second shipment if they forwarded proof that they had sold one from the first shipment. Our dealer got one on the second shipment and it was mine! It appears that they are going an extra step to ensure they don't have mass quantities of leftovers as happened with the 13 models. My dealer was able to move the leftover 13's after Yamaha USA added some very good incentives.

Doesn't sound like that applies to the dealer in Hays, though, since he had never seen one.
 

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That's very different to how dealers work in the UK. Having worked at ground level and UK HQ of a German manufacturer (blue and white logo) all new vehicles unless had a customer name attached was 'open' stock, so if another dealer had a customer for a vehicle then they could take the vehicle and assign it to their dealer number. Most new vehicles had a 180 day free stocking plan, after it went fully paid and the money came out of the dealer account, this then went onto a stocking plan and the dealer paid a small fee for this financial service, also at this point the stock now belonged to the dealer and was not 'open' so another dealer would have to make a request to have that vehicle from the dealer and only then could they have it, most dealers allowed that to happen, what goes around comes around. Once a vehicle goes fully consigned from the manufacturer, dealers want shot of the vehicle, it's tying up funds. Dealers cannot charge another dealer more than cost price, unless they have prepped the vehicle for the road and can only add that charge. There are few 'favourites' within any network that get priority from the manufacturer.
 

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EricV said:
It does sound strange. Only thing I can think of is some issue with Regional reps or the trans recall simply needing to be done on bikes they otherwise would ship him. Sucks for him to lose business.

For the right price, I'll pick up a bike somewhere else and ride it to Hays. :D
Transmission recall ?????
 

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There appears to be plenty of 2014 and 2015s in the Atlanta Area. Just need to find a dealer willing to deal.
The dealer network in Atlanta is getting bought up by 2 large groups making little competition. About the only way to get a decent price is to know someone.
 

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Bryce said:
There appears to be plenty of 2014 and 2015s in the Atlanta Area. Just need to find a dealer willing to deal.
The dealer network in Atlanta is getting bought up by 2 large groups making little competition. About the only way to get a decent price is to know someone.
If you don't mind driving a little ways into Alabama, try D and H Cycles. They have treated us Bama guys really well!

http://dandhcycle.com
 

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Checkswrecks said:
Yikes! I completely missed that one.

It seems the parts were easy to access on the effected ST's.

I had 2 Yamaha Road Stars with a transmission recall, and the engines had to come out and the cases split to access the gears in question. It was a nightmare, as I do all my own work, so I pulled the engines and top ends, and brought them the cases. I was not going to let anyone do that much work on my bike and leave it messed up. One was a custom chopper.
 

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