What's next for the Super Ten?

Madhatter

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any one looking for new . Yamaha website says there are 3 near me , ride now Austin , woods in New Braunsfels , and Kents in Selma Texas ( north San Antonio ) . all 2023 .
 

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I don’t see Yamaha bothering with a new big Tenere. We certainly won’t see one in the UK. Most of our riders are heading into their 60’s and 70’s, and are generally looking at smaller bikes as they get older. The market here for any bike will collapse over the next decade. Nothing in the biking world will survuve on the meagre amount of business that will come from the very few under 50’s that are riding, as they get older. Ignoring the EV issue, this generation will struggle to find dealers, clothing shops, spares etc. There will be one heck of a lot of 5-10 yr old GSs cluttering up what dealer showrooms are left.
I popped into a well known quality clothing shop a few weeks back, the owner agreed that hopefully she’ll just survive her last 10 working years, but didn’t expect to see things improve.
 

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I forgot about her as well…
I knew someone who looked just like her at the time the movie Pretty Woman came out. I tried to ask her out but she was trapped in a bad relationship with a dirt bag who used to beat her up with closed fist.
She was well known for thinking that was her lot in life & couldn’t get away sand wouldn’t try…
She eventually did with encouragement from people who cared for her.
 

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When you look at the market the superten still makes sense. Beemer, tarts handbag. Trumpy, 10 grand more than its worth. AT, maybe. KTM, flighty high maintenance and unridable (the r version anyhow), Husky, KTM with different stickers. I do kinda fancy the new 1050 'strom, but its chain driven. I dunno. I think after 18 months and 30,000ks of ownership if I had $25grand in my back pocket i'd still buy the yamaha.
 

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The members here I am frustratingly good at it. Our moderators are on vacay, so they haven't noticed. :D Yet.
wrong. We notice, just have more important things to worry about than what Starlet is aging well.

besides, Chalize Theron still looks like she could hurt me…….
 

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I don’t see Yamaha bothering with a new big Tenere. We certainly won’t see one in the UK. Most of our riders are heading into their 60’s and 70’s, and are generally looking at smaller bikes as they get older. The market here for any bike will collapse over the next decade. Nothing in the biking world will survuve on the meagre amount of business that will come from the very few under 50’s that are riding, as they get older. Ignoring the EV issue, this generation will struggle to find dealers, clothing shops, spares etc. There will be one heck of a lot of 5-10 yr old GSs cluttering up what dealer showrooms are left.
I popped into a well known quality clothing shop a few weeks back, the owner agreed that hopefully she’ll just survive her last 10 working years, but didn’t expect to see things improve.
Well, there’s a rosy chap!


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Harley started running into the problem more than 10 years ago. No reason the rest of the market will not see it. IF my mix of fledgling riding students is any indication, the majority of new (younger) riders are more focused on Sport and Sport Touring type bikes with a mix of commuters thrown in
 

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My son was 20 when he bought his FJR. The guys at the shop were teasing him for being the youngest FJR rider ever. That it was an old man's bike. He still has it. Had to finally replace the battery for the first-time last week. That was P.I.T.A. Had to remove half the fairing to get it in/out.
 

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Well, there’s a rosy chap!


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It’s just how it’s going over here. I’m out with my local group tomorrow. When I joined in the late 90’s I was one of the youngest members at 35ish. Most of the others were late 40’s upwards. Now they’re all retired, I’m one of the few that still works. There’ll be 40+ in the car park in the morning and I doubt there’s more than 4 or 5 younger than me.
I’ve said it before, our learner laws over the last 25-30 years have discouraged youngsters from riding, especially the last revision that keeps 17 yr olds on a 125 for two years regardless of passing their test on one. Add in media scare mongering leaving so many mums refusing to let little johnny have a moped at 16 or 125 at 17, usually apeasing them with a promise of a nice wee car instead.
Unfortunately, the prospects for the UK biking industry really doesn’t look good. It’s hard to find a positive in that.
 

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My son was 20 when he bought his FJR. The guys at the shop were teasing him for being the youngest FJR rider ever. That it was an old man's bike. He still has it. Had to finally replace the battery for the first-time last week. That was P.I.T.A. Had to remove half the fairing to get it in/out.
This is the precise reason why I much prefer the XJR over the FJR. Both 1300s but different motors & gearboxes.

KTM= Keeps Taking Money
 

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It’s just how it’s going over here. I’m out with my local group tomorrow. When I joined in the late 90’s I was one of the youngest members at 35ish. Most of the others were late 40’s upwards. Now they’re all retired, I’m one of the few that still works. There’ll be 40+ in the car park in the morning and I doubt there’s more than 4 or 5 younger than me.
I’ve said it before, our learner laws over the last 25-30 years have discouraged youngsters from riding, especially the last revision that keeps 17 yr olds on a 125 for two years regardless of passing their test on one. Add in media scare mongering leaving so many mums refusing to let little johnny have a moped at 16 or 125 at 17, usually apeasing them with a promise of a nice wee car instead.
Unfortunately, the prospects for the UK biking industry really doesn’t look good. It’s hard to find a positive in that.
it is sad since it is the country that defined “Cafe Racer”
 

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I hope that Yamaha will do what it started and it will remain not only a picture)
Looks like something I would be interested in, hopefully equipped with shaft drive , cruise control and not as tall as the current Super Tenere.
Has Yamaha ever built a motorcycle with a single sided swing arm ?
 

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I hope that Yamaha will do what it started and it will remain not only a picture)
It’s probably the only possible option, but no chance of shaft drive, they’d only justify the development cost if they keep the running gear as is. To redesign the box to have shaft would cost too much. But, as they never saw the opertunity to develop the Tenere running gear into other models like a Supermoto on alloys and sticky tyres, or a TDM style tourer or a Bulldog style naked, I can’t see them doing this one either. Hope they do, But somehow doubt it.
 

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It’s probably the only possible option, but no chance of shaft drive, they’d only justify the development cost if they keep the running gear as is. To redesign the box to have shaft would cost too much. But, as they never saw the opertunity to develop the Tenere running gear into other models like a Supermoto on alloys and sticky tyres, or a TDM style tourer or a Bulldog style naked, I can’t see them doing this one either. Hope they do, But somehow doubt it.
I agree shaft drive is unlikely which is a bummer. Part of me wants wants the 900 tenere with the triple to be real but part of me wants a whole new design that keeps shaft drive. After putting 200 miles in my new ST I really just would like an endless supply of new first gen STs for the rest of my life lol. I'll just consider myself lucky for find a 13 with 2k miles on it.
 

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I think there’s room in the market for a T7, 9 and 12, based on some of the other manufacturer’s offerings. If they ever update the 1200, I hope they keep the twin cylinder and shaft drive designs. Looking at what KTM & BWM are doing, maybe even bump the displacement a bit.


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