Tyre Pressure

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Hi Guy's
I'm running Yamaha recommended Tyre Pressures of 33 front 36 rear is anyone running with increased pressure
Most of my Bikes have run better with slightly increased pressure
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Yamaray said:
Hi Guy's
I'm running Yamaha recommended Tyre Pressures of 33 front 36 rear is anyone running with increased pressure
Most of my Bikes have run better with slightly increased pressure
Thanks

Yamaray
My 2014 ES manual calls for those pressures for loading weight of 198 pounds or less. I you weigh more than that with gear, then they recommend 42 in the back and the same 33 in front, which is what I run. I weigh 185, but with my gear on and my panniers, even empty on the bike I am carrying over 198.
 

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If I recall correctly, my in my 2012 manual it recommends 33 front, 38-42 rear dependent on load. I've tried to keep my 2nd set of Metzler Tourance above 38 in back the second time round, which seems to have discouraged premature wear. (Note 95% pavement & 1-up).
 

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The posted numbers are a design range which take a lot of factors and design targets into account. You'll find that there is a sweet spot for long tread life before a lot of negatives start to occur, and this sweet spot in many tires is more than the manufacturer posted limit. And a different sweet spot for handling, which is generally toward the mid or low end of a posted range. Do some Google searching and you can learn how to set these for your circumstances. And search right here for what people have found with various tires with various loads on the Tenere. What I use for long tire life commuting is not what I use for a fun weekend, especially if I may go off pavement.


At softer pressures, there is increased tread movement (squirm) against the pavement and the tire has less load capacity. Hence the tread wears faster. At higher pressures, there is less footprint, the tire rides harder, and things can quickly can get downright hazardous due to it not following pavement irregularities well and slipping in corners. This can be magnified riding on wet pavement.
 

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Do motorcycle tires act/wear like car/truck tires? E.g., too much pressure and they wear in the middle, too little and they wear on the outside?
I ask because I usually run a tire near or at max pressure, I'm over 250 lbs wearing a smile. I seem to wear the tires in the middle while leaving plenty of tread on the edges. Even on a set of K60s, they wore in the center and squared of the tire.
 

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Car tyres have a 'flat' profile, so will wear in the middle if over inflated and on the edges if too soft.

A motorcycle tyre, however, is 'rounded' so that they will grip as you lean over. As a result they will tend to wear more quickly in the centre. How quickly depends on many things including the type of road you ride. If the majority of your riding is on straight roads (like motorways in the UK) the middle will wear and the sides are not being used. Alternatively good 'twisty' roads will put some of the wear on the sides.

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MIKE R said:
Car tyres have a 'flat' profile, so will wear in the middle if over inflated and on the edges if too soft...
Old bias ply car tires yes, modern belted radials not so much. Air pressure is more a factor of load handling and comfort than wear.

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SilverBullet said:
Old bias ply car tires yes, modern belted radials not so much. Air pressure is more a factor of load handling and comfort than wear.

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I run the standard Metzeler EXP's at 36 front and 39 rear. I'm around 240lb's with kit and this works great for me, I also have some jack up links at the rear which adds a little extra weight to the front end too. All my previous adventure bikes with 110/80/19F and 150/70/17R tyres have all had as standard 36F/38R tyre pressures, the Yam's 33F seems low to me ?
 

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This might be opening a new can of worms however....

It was suggested to me that measuring the difference between hot and cold there pressure is the best way to determine the best tyre pressure. The magic number being between 5 and 10% variation.

The theory is based on the level of flex is what heats up your tyre. So low pressure can mean lots of flex which generates heat therefore the operating temp goes up. It apparently applies in dirt at low pressures because you generally aren't going as fast or corning as hard.

I am still experimenting with the idea and don't have enough experience to know if it is valid!!!

Too busy riding, global warming might mean a new ice age and I would have mothball my bike for winter like some on this forum!!!
 

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Cansyd1 said:
This might be opening a new can of worms however....

It was suggested to me that measuring the difference between hot and cold there pressure is the best way to determine the best tyre pressure. The magic number being between 5 and 10% variation.

The theory is based on the level of flex is what heats up your tyre. So low pressure can mean lots of flex which generates heat therefore the operating temp goes up. It apparently applies in dirt at low pressures because you generally aren't going as fast or corning as hard.

I am still experimenting with the idea and don't have enough experience to know if it is valid!!!

Too busy riding, global warming might mean a new ice age and I would have mothball my bike for winter like some on this forum!!!
I'd like to see if anyone has some good info on this. I'm a heavy guy and would like to have some objective way to find the right tire pressure for my tires in my situation.
 

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I always run 2 pounds higher front and rear on all bikes I ever owned. I think its easier to move around at low speed, give me longer tire wear and I don't have to fill them up as often.
 

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So do we realy need to tell people that car tyres have a flat profile and bikes have a rounded profile !? Just saying ......
 

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jimyamaha said:
So do we realy need to tell people that car tyres have a flat profile and bikes have a rounded profile !?
Knowledge is power ::008::
 

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well if people need to be told that a car tyre has a flat profile and a motorcycle tyre is rounded then they may need to find out that cars have 4 tyres and motorcycles only have two ...
 
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