Triumph Tiger 1200 Gen4 (2022 - )

[Tenman]

I ride solo and would totally suggest staying away from the Tiger right now. Basically mine has been out of service most of this year. Left me stranded 1500 miles from home and cost me a small fortune to get home. Has been to the dealer for the clutch 4 times, Triumph said they would not cover it under warranty because it was 'wear and tear'. Then after aggressive negotiations they decided to cover the new full clutch system. Of course there are no parts available right now. The day after I get mine back it will be gone.
Run, don't walk away.
Too bad because I really like this bike, a lot. The power, the comfort, style, tech, etc etc. Too bad it didn't actually work though

Thanks. I've seen quite a few clutch issues on the tiger forum. Quite a few software glitches too. My S10 is a great machine for what it is intended for. My tweaked 20 yro ZRX1200 will SMOKE IT. I ran over a skunk doing 150mph on it.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

... and after the Triumph I'd like to have a bit more gravel ability. Really like the newer GoldWings and obviously they are fantastic 2-up but again the desire to be able to do some gravel is their Achilles Heel.

...There's a 2019 1290S I may go look at in PA this week.

I'm sure you know the 2019 and my 2020 are the same bike. Yes, I'm pretty confident you know my opinion of the SAS. My goodness, I do love that bike.

As far as gravel, the SAS is great there with all the electronic engine and suspension settings, it will do it with absolutely no issues. I limit myself quite a bit off pavement due to the tires I run on it. I want sticky, pavement orientated adventure tires (95/5 or 90/10) that can handle all that power when exiting a corner with 160hp available in my right hand. Those tires are fine traction wise in the dirt, but I learned the hard way, they are far easier to puncture in even mildly rocky stuff.

As far as testing the 2019, don't hesitate to put it in Sport. The bike is gentle as a kitten in Sport unless you request it to roar. It will do that, too. I have little hesitation riding it in Sport in the rain. Just not an issue.

Good luck.

 

[Jlq1969]

The height problem would be basically the rear damping scheme….it does not use linkages (neither the Tiger, nor the SAS)…..with linkages, it is easier to lower the height, and make them more comfortable to go up and down, without decrease the travel of the suspension…..or am I wrong?

 

[Checkswrecks]

The height problem would be basically the rear damping scheme….it does not use linkages (neither the Tiger, nor the SAS)…..with linkages, it is easier to lower the height, and make them more comfortable to go up and down, without decrease the travel of the suspension…..or am I wrong?

No, the height problem is structural in how the Triumph is designed. This is a LOT more than get a lower seat and drop the suspension.
Since everybody here can relate to the dimensions of the Super Tenere, these seats are about the same distance off the ground, but this photo shows how far up the rear seat is and you can see why it is so hard to swing a leg over. Great bike other than that.

 

[scott123007]

Bob, I know you're not a real fan of chains, but other than a little more wheel cleaning, the age of adjustments is almost a bygone era. At least, before you make a final decision try the Tracer 9 GT. Most likely the right power, size and weight you are seeking. You would be shocked how capable of a bike that is. The current version has "most" of the bells and whistles, but the GT+ which should arrive here next year has ALL the bells and whistles. Also, I think too many people read too much into the gravel road capability of bikes without 19" or more front tires. Most bikes, regardless of tire size handle gravel roads just fine, especially the speeds you would be going two up, JMHO
Scott

 

[gv550]

I bought a new Tracer GT in 2019, sold it 9 months later. It was in need of its THIRD chain and sprocket set at 18000 miles.

 

[fac191]

My Tiger 800 had 18,000 mls on the original chain when i sold it. I never adjusted it once. It only got done at service. Scottoiler from new. 3 chains in 18 thou ! . Even uf i didnt touch it i would expect much better than that.

 

[Donk]

I had the '21 890 Adventure in for the 18k service and asked them to really check the chain as next trip for the bike is 8000 miles. At 18k original chain shows minimal stretch and no side play. I lube it every 1000 miles or so, that's it.

I actually chopped down the passenger seat on the 890 so I'd stop getting my boot stuck on it getting off the bike. Pretty much solved the problem for me. I have a second seat if my wife wants to go for a ride. She seldom does so it worked out pretty good.

 

[Donk]

Bob, I know you're not a real fan of chains, but other than a little more wheel cleaning, the age of adjustments is almost a bygone era. At least, before you make a final decision try the Tracer 9 GT. Most likely the right power, size and weight you are seeking. You would be shocked how capable of a bike that is. The current version has "most" of the bells and whistles, but the GT+ which should arrive here next year has ALL the bells and whistles. Also, I think too many people read too much into the gravel road capability of bikes without 19" or more front tires. Most bikes, regardless of tire size handle gravel roads just fine, especially the speeds you would be going two up, JMHO
Scott

Scott, are you riding a Tracer 9GT these days?

 

[Dirt_Dad]

As far as chains go, on the SAS I ignore it. I burn through tires fast enough that the tech makes any needed adjustments. Eventually the oiler makes a bit of a mess on the rear wheel. Doesn't really bother me. I just change the sprocket and chain every valve check. Yes, 18k is probably too soon, but I don't want to think about the chain. So I'm good with it. It's just a total non-factor.

 

[scott123007]

Scott, are you riding a Tracer 9GT these days?

No, Don, I still have my MT10, but a friend of mine just bought a '22 9GT and I rode it extensively for a day up in Ga. Not the wheelie prone bike the MT09 or 10 is, so not for me, realizing of course, that most "normal" riders could care less about that, but otherwise, it is truly a wonderful ride.

 

[RCinNC]

Way back in 2014 when I was looking for a replacement for the V-Strom, my partner and I went to look at a new Triumph 1200 Explorer. It was a great looking bike, but unless a Sherpa came as an accessory, she flat out couldn't get onto the passenger seat comfortably. That made it a no-go for us. It was a shame, because it was a great looking bike, but that led us to the Super Tenere, so it all worked out for the best.

Obviously the seat height is still an issue, so I guess the Triumph is coming off the short list for an S10 replacement.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . so I guess the Triumph is coming off the short list for an S10 replacement.

I've always said if I switched from the Tenere, it would likely be to the Tiger. Sexy bike. But between the cost, and the non-Yamaha reliability . . . . I don't see me getting rid of my old boring slipper that fits perfect.

 

[RCinNC]

More and more, I think the appropriate replacement for my Super Tenere is a Super Tenere.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Wait for the new Water Stelvio. I've got about an hour between two V100 Mandellos and can easily imagine that engine in something like the V85TT chassis. Unless they biff it big time, it's going to be the perfect adventure bike in fit, power, size, and weight. Plus, they are working out the teething issues (not many) on the Mandello before the Stelvio is released.

 

[SuckSqueezeBangBlow]

Well a long story made short but my Tiger will also most likely be gone soon. Might wait until the beginning of next year but it will be gone then. I don't know if it is the design of the clutch, inability of the dealerships (yes the dealerships is plural as it has been to 3 different dealers) to fix it properly or just my poor luck but I just don't trust it anymore. After multiple breakdowns of the clutch, and the last one costing me several thousand dollars to get it home, I just don't trust it anymore. Too bad as I just love pretty much everything about the bike but I would kick myself if I went down some long and lonely dirt road and it died again.
Not sure what I am going to get, I entertained buying my old S10 back from the dealer but in the end I am leaning towards the Indian Pursuit. If I go to do any dirt roads I just may go for a Vstrom, either 650 or 800, but I am just not a fan of chain maintenance.

Time will tell I guess...

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . I am leaning towards the Indian Pursuit. . . .

Maybe the Yamaha Venture? Similar looks and it's a Yamaha.

 

[SuckSqueezeBangBlow]

Maybe the Yamaha Venture? Similar looks and it's a Yamaha.

I seem to remember that was huge but maybe should take another look. Thanks.

 

[audiowize]

Well I couldn't stop him, we'll see how this one goes.

For anyone looking at one of these, Triumph decided to copy Harley with a damped trunk mounting plate, but it seems to rattle around on its mounts, so maybe go with the setup directly from Givi.

 

[Sierra1]

Well I couldn't stop him, we'll see how this one goes. . . . .

"Him"?