TomTom 410 install

Sandford6016

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I've just acquired a TomTom Rider 410 sat nav. It comes with a mount that provides power that needs wiring in somehow.

Does anyone have this and if so how and where have you wired it into? Pics and instructions for a dummy are most welcome!

Thanks!
 

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Can you show us what the connectors or power supply is that came with the TomTom?

For my Garmin, I bought a USB adapter that connects directly to the battery... but I wired it into an accessory plug under the right side cover that is live when the key is in..
 

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It's a very thin black and red wire. No battery connectors so would suggest these need to be spliced into somewhere, as you say, linked to the ignition maybe?
 

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Yes, the red wire is to the positive and the black to the negative post of the battery, but that will most likely run the battery flat since it will always be drawing power.

Under the right side cover there is a (usually) empty accessory wiring loom that has a hot positive wire and negative wire... I am at the office so I Can't do much searching but if this is the way you want to go, you can buy the "Adapter" plug that all you have to do is crimp the red and black wire into the adapter and plug it in, and you'll get ignition powered source when you turn the key.

I'm sure others will chime and and make recommendations on other areas that you can tap into for power, but for me I prefer never to slice or dice the wiring to install these simple accessories...
 

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I would do a relay with fused protection. Plenty of info on this site (eastern beaver...etc), and that can be tapped into the aux light plug on the right side (what Ricochet was explaining). The relay would be set up as to only work with the ignition on, and could have just one up to 4-5 additional connections for future uses.

That picture doesn't show any fuse, and I wouldn't rely on the actual GPS to protect itself from an electrical spike as the circuit you are tapping into may have a larger amp rating than the GPS could take.

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RicoChet said:
Yes, the red wire is to the positive and the black to the negative post of the battery, but that will most likely run the battery flat since it will always be drawing power.
But only if the sat nav is left in the cradle all the time, right? Or am I missing something? :question:
 

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Dogdaze said:
But only if the sat nav is left in the cradle all the time, right? Or am I missing something? :question:
Without using a voltmeter, its hard to know what the GPS will do when its "Powered" off.. it could always be charging or doing something unexpected. That's why its a good idea to have the GPS power run from a switched power source, that way its only on when the bike ignition is turned on. You can always turn your GPS on manually if you want to do something while the bike is off, but I wouldn't trust any electronics that are directly wired to the battery .... otherwise one day you'll find your battery quite drained! Always make sure to put a fuse on the positive (Red) wire side when connecting to the power source. As HeliMark said, I would use a power source like a Eastern Beaver or my favourite, a FZ1 Power Block so you can connect many more electronics down the line and choose if they power up with or without the ignition.
 

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Before you wire your device into your bike make sure it uses a 12v source. I'm not familiar with the TomTom products but my Garmins have a voltage reducer in the power cord. It reduces the voltage to about 5 volts. Also, it sounds like the electrical field might not be your cup of tea. Why not just use the 12 volt cigarette lighter receptacle on the dash? Buy the male end, shorten up your power cord and plug it in. It works on my bike for the Garmin GPS units that I use. It is a switched outlet that is turned on by the key. Good luck.
 

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magic said:
Before you wire your device into your bike make sure it uses a 12v source. I'm not familiar with the TomTom products but my Garmins have a voltage reducer in the power cord. It reduces the voltage to about 5 volts. Also, it sounds like the electrical field might not be your cup of tea. Why not just use the 12 volt cigarette lighter receptacle on the dash? Buy the male end, shorten up your power cord and plug it in. It works on my bike for the Garmin GPS units that I use. It is a switched outlet that is turned on by the key. Good luck.
Some of the motorcycle navigation devices like the Garmin Zumo only come with hard wired mounts. You have no choice but to wire them into a hot source on the bike to turn on. Personally, I think what he has is fine but I would install an eastern beaver or FZ1 fuseblock and just connect all accessories to that.
 

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Thanks all.

You are correct, it only comes with a hard wired option and I'd like to keep the power socket free for phone charging etc.

I've searched for the eastern beaver and fz1 in a couple of UK stores and I can't find them. Any UK based guys done anything similar?
 

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I originally used the white plug for the oem lights, the brown wire is the hot live bit I ended up making an aux fuse box. If you go on www.v-strom.co.uk and search for 'Big pie aux fuse box' you'll see the kind of thing. He sells them with a strom plug on there or you could be cheeky and use the picks to make your own ;-)

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Thanks all. I've found the eastern beaver site and they ship to the uk! Order placed! Pretty pleased as I can also run my aux lights through it too rather than direct to the battery like they are now. ::008::
 

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I've done two versions of the hardwired GPS. The first one used what's called a buck converter, which was wired to an Eastern Beaver power distribution box. The buck converter drops the voltage from the bike from 12 volts down to 5 volts for use by the GPS. The buck converter was under the fairing, with a USB cable routed up beside the instrument pod. When the cable wasn't in use, I attached it to the accessory rail with a piece of velcro tape. The buck converter was on a switched circuit on the Eastern Beaver power distribution box, so power to the GPS was shut off when the bike was shut off.

Eventually I wanted a more organized installation with additional power outlets; this second version involved the installation of two Motopower USB ports on a homemade shelf above the instrument pod. The Motopower USB outlets don't need the buck converter. The outlets are connected to the EB power distribution box; one outlet is always hot, and the other is switched.

This link is to a post describing how I hooked up the buck converter: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=16244.msg250289#msg250289

This link is to a post describing how I hooked up the two Motorpower USB ports: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=22129.msg313986#msg313986

Both the DROK 12V to 5V buck converter and the Motopower USB outlets came from Amazon.
 

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