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lund

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Riding staggered is about training, moto cops take training courses, all of them. So the rules applied is the same throughout. If your trained and the other guy is trained then everyone knows their place and position. No before ride lecture is needed. The same as knowing a red light means stop and not step on it LOL.
 

WJBertrand

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I hate riding side by side. It feels like my escape routes are blocked or too confined. Went with a group years ago where a couple of the riders wanted to ride by my side. They also insisted on riding in a very close configuration I purposely dropped back to discourage it or when I could, moved to a separate lane. At the next stop I just told them I’d take up the rear by myself. Never rode with those guys again.


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lund

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Simply every one needs to fallow the lead riders Q's. When the lead rider is in his lane position (inside near centerline) and changes his position to either make a left turn for example to (out side near shoulder), everyone needs to fallow suit all the way down the line, in a unified manner, like a dance. Once the turn is negotiated by the lead rider then he returns to his proper lane position and every one fallows suit to their proper position.
Untrained riders have no clue on proper positioning and how too, making group rider hazardous.
Riding courses, should be MANDATORY for all.
 

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. . . . No before ride lecture is needed. . . .
Not true. Different departments might have the same ways/policies to conduct escorts. But they might have different ways/policies to conduct escorts.
 

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I have done a lot of group rides and pulled a lot of newbs out of the ditch.

At this point i will only group ride with experienced riders who i know.


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Sierra1

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. . . . Riding courses, should be MANDATORY for all.
Riding side by side is extremely dangerous and actually illegal here.
When my boys decided to ride, I told them they had to take the MSF course. I was promptly informed by them that it was mandatory to get a motorcycle license in Texas. It takes the place of the driving portion. Still have to take the written.

My boys are the only ones that I ride side by side with. And only if their Senas are charged, 'cuz you're right. And yeah, "lane sharing" isn't legal here either.
 

lund

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When my boys decided to ride, I told them they had to take the MSF course. I was promptly informed by them that it was mandatory to get a motorcycle license in Texas. It takes the place of the driving portion. Still have to take the written.

My boys are the only ones that I ride side by side with. And only if their Senas are charged, 'cuz you're right. And yeah, "lane sharing" isn't legal here either.
All I can say is I wish my boys would ride, one has no interest while the other rides dirt only and couldn't care less about riding the road.
Your a lucky man.
 

Sierra1

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Thank you. And I don't think it's going to stop with them. My youngest's son and daughter both have the bike bug.
 

thughes317

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Simply every one needs to fallow the lead riders Q's. When the lead rider is in his lane position (inside near centerline) and changes his position to either make a left turn for example to (out side near shoulder), everyone needs to fallow suit all the way down the line, in a unified manner, like a dance. Once the turn is negotiated by the lead rider then he returns to his proper lane position and every one fallows suit to their proper position.
Untrained riders have no clue on proper positioning and how too, making group rider hazardous.
Riding courses, should be MANDATORY for all.
A very well articulated dissertation on why I will never ride with a group. I enjoy riding, not participating in a synchronized parade. YMMV
 

jeckyll

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Inexperience does add to the risk of someone getting injured, but the real reason is that everybody has a different way of doing things. If a group of people ride together a lot, and know each other's habits, generally they're not the ones that have issues. Motor cops in one city don't have any issues when riding with each other. Throw in a different city though? Depending on what type of escort they're conducting, it can get hazardous. And, generally, they're not inexperienced or untrained.

I ride staggered when I'm with most of my friends. My kids and I will ride side by side. 1) We have Senas and can communicate what we're going to do and any potential problems we see ahead. 2) We've ridden together for years and know each other's reactions. 3) We don't stay side by side on twistie roads.
To each their own, I leave "side-by-side" riding for pirates and cops.

I've done (and led) plenty of group rides. The best ones are with a few good friends where everyone understands how to ride well in a group and where 'posturing' isn't important to anyone. Can be great fun :)

In large group rides with unknow riders, chances are someone's going to let their ego write cheques their ass has to cache.
 

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honestly the super tenere is one of the most confidence inspiring steeds i've ridden. It can go plenty hard on any road ride. it does get a little loose past 100mph, that's a bit out of its design envelope, but it'll do it.
 

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honestly the super tenere is one of the most confidence inspiring steeds i've ridden. It can go plenty hard on any road ride. it does get a little loose past 100mph, that's a bit out of its design envelope, but it'll do it.
And depends quite a bit as to what shoes she's wearing.
 
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