Tenere 660. I want one.
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Had one, traded it for the 1200. Its no where near the same in terms of quality of components build etc... Spokes , shocks , forks are all at the cheap end of spectrum . That said its one of those bikes that are better than the sum of its parts. Though rear shock will need replacement after only a few K's due to shiet spring, which looses its rate rapidly, revealing poor compression and rebound damping that doesnt get better with age. The 1200 is better balanced (less top heavy) and better offroad when both are in stock form, despite its weight disadvantage, due to the 660's crap sussies. The 660 also buffets your helmet like a heavywieght boxers punch bag , is a touch slow for on road overtaking and isnt much better for mpg, which due to the 660s smaller tank means less range than the 1200. All just IMHO
I'd certainly be interested in one, but I'm not holding my breath that it will ever be imported to the US. It strikes me as a much nicer KLR, although I suspect the pricing would so much higher than the KLR, it would be a touch sell. Most think it would probably be right at $9K base price. At $7K, it would grab a huge chunk of the KLR market. At $8K, it would make a dent. At $9K, they'd be lucky to move a few hundred.
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i rode both the 1200 and 660 on the super tenere day in wales, im tellin ya, those 660's are brilliant off roading ::008::
I'm going to put about 2300 miles on a 660 this October in Namibia. Let you know what I think about it.
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Had a XT660R , which is considerably cheaper than the XT660Z, and in my opinion a much better bike . Used it for a 15K mile trip last summer Nova scotia, NF and Lab Highway and across to Alaska and down to TX . It was so good and reliable it persuaded me to trade it for the S10 (which is the best bike I have ever owned!). If you're looking for a smaller Yam don't dismiss the XT660R, it's a fabulous bike.
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I heard there were some issues with steering head bearings? Anybody know for sure?
I was looking at some XT 660 Z reviews and there have certainly been some positive reviews. Are the Yamaha Top Case and Panniers interchangeable between the two? I'm looking at a WR450 or 250R soon, but if Yamaha would bring over the 660Z I would certainly consider it.
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I know the EPA approval is a big hurdle but I would think it would be an easy deal for Yam past that. Introduce a "new" model to the the US that doesn't have the usual R & D costs. Could be that with the BMW 650, KLR and Suzook DR, KTM, etc. models that the niche is already well covered though.
I may be off base, but I thought that I read somewhere that the new EU exhaust specs were just as tough as the EPA?20valves said:
http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/Yamaha/2010_XT660Z/Yamaha_XT660Z_Tenere_Test.htm
The only way this could possibly make its way over here is if we all quit talking about it here only and get on the phones, send a letter, inform our dealers, and otherwise speak about it in the presence of anyone and everyone who works for the tuning forks. Once we've done this - REPEAT!!!!
I spoke with my dealer both before and after the dealer show and they indicated that there is someone in the upper chain of Yamaha USA who is pretty adamant about it NOT making its way to our shores.
I see the biggest challenge as being cost. If this bike were to find its way over here, like I've said before, I'd punch someone in the mouth to take their place in line to get one so know that I am in the BRING IT HERE camp. Americans are cheap bas*^%^(&)s. They want to compare a bike with EFI, modern componentry, good brakes, etc. with the usual rubber suspended, carburated, flimsy offerings we have here in that segment. The KTM 690 is a known commodity as being very capable, high end componentry, etc. but is hedged to the aggressive side of the segment. People in this segment tend to be very money conscious and as a result either spend big dollars (KTM) for the performance or go cheap (DR650, KLR650, etc).
As many have stated, I think Yamaha brings great products to us...when they do it....but they struggle in marketing them properly which, I think, almost causes them to fulfill their own prophecies relating to the success of their offerings. "See, I told you it wouldn't do that well......."
Get on the phones, write your letters, beat the door done at your dealer, but do not think your enthusiatsic reponse to this bike will mena anything without a proactive course of action that forces Yamaha to bring it to us. Oh, and when they do, get in line behind me and open that checkbook!!!!!
If it showed up, this would be my get dirty, build it as an off road bully, and go get dirty.
The only way this could possibly make its way over here is if we all quit talking about it here only and get on the phones, send a letter, inform our dealers, and otherwise speak about it in the presence of anyone and everyone who works for the tuning forks. Once we've done this - REPEAT!!!!
I spoke with my dealer both before and after the dealer show and they indicated that there is someone in the upper chain of Yamaha USA who is pretty adamant about it NOT making its way to our shores.
I see the biggest challenge as being cost. If this bike were to find its way over here, like I've said before, I'd punch someone in the mouth to take their place in line to get one so know that I am in the BRING IT HERE camp. Americans are cheap bas*^%^(&)s. They want to compare a bike with EFI, modern componentry, good brakes, etc. with the usual rubber suspended, carburated, flimsy offerings we have here in that segment. The KTM 690 is a known commodity as being very capable, high end componentry, etc. but is hedged to the aggressive side of the segment. People in this segment tend to be very money conscious and as a result either spend big dollars (KTM) for the performance or go cheap (DR650, KLR650, etc).
As many have stated, I think Yamaha brings great products to us...when they do it....but they struggle in marketing them properly which, I think, almost causes them to fulfill their own prophecies relating to the success of their offerings. "See, I told you it wouldn't do that well......."
Get on the phones, write your letters, beat the door done at your dealer, but do not think your enthusiatsic reponse to this bike will mena anything without a proactive course of action that forces Yamaha to bring it to us. Oh, and when they do, get in line behind me and open that checkbook!!!!!
If it showed up, this would be my get dirty, build it as an off road bully, and go get dirty.
I looked into this and the part nos. for the luggage is different between the two bikes and the dimensions are not identical. So although I don't know for sure the luggage won't interchange, I'd bet the mounting points are different so it wouldn't work.protondecay123 said:
I'd like to see the 660 too, but previous statements from Yamaha have indicated that they think the bike would have to sell for too much money to get any decent market share with bikes like the KLR undercutting it by thousands. I'd guess Yamaha feels like they've got the appropriate adventure bike for the US market and will leave their eggs in the S10 basket.
I do think Yamaha would like to have something to compete with the small Strom, Versys, and upcoming Honda NC700X, but I think this requires a cheap twin rather than an expensive single. Yamaha is woefully underrepresented in the commuter/advanced-beginner-bike/light-adventure market. But who knows? The Japanese importers move in strange ways.
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I think your right about the panniers. Part numbers and volumes are different. They are of similar style. Having a Raven SuperTen I really liked the Black panniers Yamaha Europe offered up.
Also I talked to Gerald at D&H and he said that the SuperTen sales in the US are above expectations.
I did call Cypress about the SuperTen twice before the PDP was announced. I like to think it made a difference.
Also I talked to Gerald at D&H and he said that the SuperTen sales in the US are above expectations.
I did call Cypress about the SuperTen twice before the PDP was announced. I like to think it made a difference.
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Heard somebody saying that s10 is better off road bike. Kidding right!?
If by off road they ment those dirt highways, then the R1 is just as good as s10.
The thing is, i don't see it as a second bike. I own xtr660, and that one makes much more sense with almost half the weight of S10. Few mods and it turns out to be a cheap, reliable and capable off road machine, while being comfy for whatever else. Than again, WR is the way to go if you plan to attack the mountain, woods,(skills needed) and putting commuting aside.
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If by off road they ment those dirt highways, then the R1 is just as good as s10.
The thing is, i don't see it as a second bike. I own xtr660, and that one makes much more sense with almost half the weight of S10. Few mods and it turns out to be a cheap, reliable and capable off road machine, while being comfy for whatever else. Than again, WR is the way to go if you plan to attack the mountain, woods,(skills needed) and putting commuting aside.
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