Talked to Yamaha today about the hazard switch

[martinh]

I know there has been a lot of talk about why the hazard switch was taken off the tenere in the states. I talked to a tech there and all he could tell me was it is not required here in the state. I asked him if Yamaha was concerned about rider safety, and it is an important feature that should be on the bike. Again all he could say was Yamaha did not have to put it on the bike because it was not a DOT regulation. So I asked him to talk to a supervisor and he had one call me back today. I had a long talk with him and all he could tell me it was not a DOT requirement so Yamaha took it off. I asked him if the switch could be made available here. He told me I was the first person to ask for it or bring up the safety issues of not having it on the bike. I told him that is crazy, if you look on the Web you would see a lot of talk about bikes missing Hazard switches. He also said if more people would call into Yamaha about it then they would look into making it available here in the US. So who ever feels that Yamaha should make it available here then give them a call. Here is the numbers to call 800-962-7926, and the direct number to the supervisor I talked to is 714-761-7300. Give them a call and maybe we can get the controls here.

 

[avc8130]

I have never had a bike with a hazard switch, but I certainly wouldn't complain if I had one.

More important to me would be the "flash to pass". I have never had a bike WITHOUT one and I miss it.

ac

 

[Don in Lodi]

With our 'lectronic throttle it would have been super easy to build in a cruise also...

 

[coastie]

I had flashers on my VFR and used them a few times. I was very surprised the S10 did not have any.

 

[20valves]

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[Don in Lodi]

Absolutely! ::021::

 

[erenet]

The flash works on the other side of the Atlantic, you want to pass a truck or a car? First flash them, if it's dangerous for you to pass them they'll help you by turn the left signal, once they see it's safe for you to pass, they'll turn the right signal and move closer to the curb. It's just a way of communicating.

You can't use the flasher here in Ontario, everyone thinks they're police officers, and you automatically get a finger out the window : . I still would like to have the flash to pass switch and hazards switch, they also would look cool on my handlebar , I'd use the flasher as a horn at night and day and it can be used to alert the other drivers of radar. At least the radar one is international I think.

 

[EricV]

I had flashers on the FJR and will be adding a toggle switch for flashers on the S10, (maybe later today, and will try to take and post pics), but would love to have had the same EU switch housing, even with a disabled flash to pass switch, (ideally with the switch there, just not plugged in, so I could choose to plug it in, or wire it to something else... like a garage door opener).

This is one of those things that if you never had it, you sort of don't see the need, but when you do have them, you find some situations where it is really handy. I didn't use the flashers on the FJR much, but was really glad to have them when I needed them.

Bang on the 4-ways, hit the high beam, whack the throttle to pass the guy towing the massive two axle trailer with a rear tire on fire, (who is obviously clueless), and give him the classic arm pumping, point to the side of the road signal to pull over and he immediately complies because I have gotten his ATTENTION. "Your trailer tire is on fire and coming apart, creating a hazard for you and the other road users" him "no it's not." me - "Yes, it really is. Please come take a look." He did, and got the biggest 'oh shit' look on his face when he saw how bad it was. By that time the tire was pretty shredded. He had a fire extinguisher and a spare, but his big diesel dually would have kept right on pulling that trailer until it was dragging on the ground w/o him noticing any difference.

I also had a few times where I came around a blind corner and found an accident, did a U turn and parked the bike with the flashers on back before the blind curve to warn others, then ran up to help with the accident. Only bad part about that was on the FJR you had to leave the key on to have flashers. I'll be wiring the S10 so that isn't an issue. Faster than flares sometimes. Great for bad location side of the road bonus stops during rallies too.

 

[Tremor38]

I had flashers on the FJR and will be adding a toggle switch for flashers on the S10, (maybe later today, and will try to take and post pics), but would love to have had the same EU switch housing, even with a disabled flash to pass switch, (ideally with the switch there, just not plugged in, so I could choose to plug it in, or wire it to something else... like a garage door opener).

This is one of those things that if you never had it, you sort of don't see the need, but when you do have them, you find some situations where it is really handy. I didn't use the flashers on the FJR much, but was really glad to have them when I needed them.

Bang on the 4-ways, hit the high beam, whack the throttle to pass the guy towing the massive two axle trailer with a rear tire on fire, (who is obviously clueless), and give him the classic arm pumping, point to the side of the road signal to pull over and he immediately complies because I have gotten his ATTENTION. "Your trailer tire is on fire and coming apart, creating a hazard for you and the other road users" him "no it's not." me - "Yes, it really is. Please come take a look." He did, and got the biggest 'oh shit' look on his face when he saw how bad it was. By that time the tire was pretty shredded. He had a fire extinguisher and a spare, but his big diesel dually would have kept right on pulling that trailer until it was dragging on the ground w/o him noticing any difference.

I also had a few times where I came around a blind corner and found an accident, did a U turn and parked the bike with the flashers on back before the blind curve to warn others, then ran up to help with the accident. Only bad part about that was on the FJR you had to leave the key on to have flashers. I'll be wiring the S10 so that isn't an issue. Faster than flares sometimes. Great for bad location side of the road bonus stops during rallies too.

4-ways work with the key in the 'P' position on the euro spec bikes. You might want to wire yours that way.

 

[EricV]

4-ways work with the key in the 'P' position on the euro spec bikes. You might want to wire yours that way.

No 'P' position where you can remove the key on the US spec bikes. I'm willing to risk the battery drain Vs leaving the keys in the ignition.

All we get is lock, off, on. Lock has no power, just locks the steering neck.

 

[Thunderpig]

I have these lights and love them; I have them mounted either side of the license plate like in the picture. I really like the Flashing brake light and the hazard function works well too. I know it can only be used when stopped, and that it takes some switch gyrations to get the hazard mode, but i think it's a pretty good compromise.



http://www.lights.skenedesign.com/

 

[roy]

Even my GSXR1000 has a hazard switch and a gear indicator and a lap timer and on the fly instrument toggle control switch and shift light, go Suzuki!! ;D

 

[Kidder]

Even my 07 V-Strom 650 had a hazard switch and flash-to-pass. Neither are DOT requirements so why did Suzuki add the features? ::010::

 

[martinh]

Even my 07 V-Strom 650 had a hazard switch and flash-to-pass. Neither are DOT requirements so why did Suzuki add the features? ::010::

My DL1000 had them ans so does my lil Versys. Call Yamaha and tell them they should offer it for safety reasons and if enough people call they will do it. I've used them when riding in a hard rain just to let people know behind me that there is someone in front of them.

 

[Koinz]

My DL1000 had them ans so does my lil Versys. Call Yamaha and tell them they should offer it for safety reasons and if enough people call they will do it. I've used them when riding in a hard rain just to let people know behind me that there is someone in front of them.

+1 ....and on top of the rain, I'd be riding through Philly Traffic. The Flashers did give me a sense of security that people could see me riding in those conditions. Good Point Martin.

 

[BWC]

This Euro. spec. Tenere was on the demo. circuit last summer in Canada. It was at the dealer I bought my bike from and I noticed it had the high beam flash and hazards. Picked my bike up a week later and suprise, none of the above. Pointed it out to the salesman and they weren't aware the Canadian spec. bikes didn't come with them.
Was told later by the dealer that Yamaha wasn't required to have them so not available.
Asked about getting it and they tracked down the Euro. version left switch cluster about $165.00. A little more than I would like to pay for something the other guys include.
Having had them on the DL1000 I do miss the high beam flash feature, and having the hazards gives a little more safety for those unexpected roadside pulloffs.
Overall a small oversight on an otherwise very good bike C

 

[Brntrt]

Having had them on the DL1000 I do miss the high beam flash feature, and having the hazards gives a little more safety for those unexpected roadside pulloffs.
Overall a small oversight on an otherwise very good bike C

It's such a good bike the only time you may have one of those unexpected roadside pulloffs is when your buddy's BMW breaks down. Other than that you would probably never need flashers.


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Mark

 

[JonnyCinco]

Even my GSXR1000 has a hazard switch and a gear indicator and a lap timer and on the fly instrument toggle control switch and shift light, go Suzuki!! ;D

gotta ask...never understood the lap timer on these bikes. How useful is it really when you are trying to see your lap time? you have to push a button to start and split laps correct? If you really wanted to see if you are improving in time, your improvement will likely only be a second, or fractions there of. think you are pushing that button at the exact same location every lap? ::001::

 

[roy]

gotta ask...never understood the lap timer on these bikes. How useful is it really when you are trying to see your lap time? you have to push a button to start and split laps correct? If you really wanted to see if you are improving in time, your improvement will likely only be a second, or fractions there of. think you are pushing that button at the exact same location every lap? ::001::

It's a gimmick add on not real useful but fun to play with. A real transponder and pickup point on the track is the preferred method or a very knowledgable wife like mine. She is an outstanding stopwatch operator usually only missing a 100th or so. I personally rely on her and don't like an on board timer too much distraction. I'm one of those types with a good internal head clock so I kinda know where I'm losing time or gaining. It comes with going around in circles a lot.

 

[RidingUpandDown]

seems a convenience but the scout in me would perfer to be-prepared. Maybe the guy that made the decision to leave off was thinkin these would be used exclusively in the woods and not needed. ::025::

My son's naked Hyosung 650 has both flash-to-pass and emergency flashers, and that was 1/3 the cost of the S10. Just sayin.

d ::001::