Starts on second try

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Hi I'm new to this bike and the form. I have a 2015 es I picked up with 8000mi. About 3 months ago it now getting ready to roll over 10,000. Is there something wrong? Why does it always take a second try to to start it at anything below 50 degrees. It always starts then dies stays running on second try. I was really excited to get my first fuel injected bike. Little disappointed in how it starts. BTW I'm really enjoying this bike so far. Thanks for any help or thoughts
 

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Flat lander said:
Hi I'm new to this bike and the form. I have a 2015 es I picked up with 8000mi. About 3 months ago it now getting ready to roll over 10,000. Is there something wrong? Why does it always take a second try to to start it at anything below 50 degrees. It always starts then dies stays running on second try. I was really excited to get my first fuel injected bike. Little disappointed in how it starts. BTW I'm really enjoying this bike so far. Thanks for any help or thoughts
Try holding the starter switch just a little longer the first try.
 

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holligl said:
Try holding the starter switch just a little longer the first try.
Don't think it's a good ide ;)
He writes is does start first time, but dies..

Does it also dies if you DO NOT touch the throttle?
 

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I never touch the throttle. Just the starter button. I don't touch the throttle when I start my car or truck.
I have read many times on this forum that this bike has a long break in. Just wondering if this is part of it.
 

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holligl said:
Try holding the starter switch just a little longer the first try.
Mine will occasionally hit immediately then stumble and not start if I let off the starter too quickly. It is better with a new battery.

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I will try holding the starter button a little longer. I have also thought about the battery. It really doesn't spin over very fast compared to other bikes I've had. But this is also my first big twin.
 

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Don't know about the starting thing but if you do get a new battery get a YTZ 14 S instead of the stock YTZ 12 S it turns over a lot faster.I often wandered about the cranking speed ,now it seams right after upgrading . You say yours turns slow? when its cold out, it may help . I also have a 15 with 10700 on the clock and 3-4 years out of a battery in Florida is about it .
 

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I NEVER let go of the starter before I'm sure the engine has fired and is running well. This may be half a second with engine running and starter still pressed.
 

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Thanks for the help. I did know about the battery upgrade for this bike by information I have found on this forum. Knowing that I will probably be doing the upgrade later this summer
 

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I have noticed that if i get impatient and try immediately starting after turning the key it can sometimes stumble the first time. I find it works better to turn the key and let the computer and other things fire up for a second or two before hitting the starter. You will hear a high pitch noise that I think is the fuel pump winding up and stopping? Right after that starting works pretty well. Maybe has nothing to do with it, but I have noticed it works better.
 

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I've gotten into the habit of counting to 5 after turning the key on before hitting the starter. I think I got caught a few times trying to start the bike before the ECU had run thru all it's stuff and as a result the bike was hard to start.
And a good battery is imperative. I use a voltmeter to keep track of it (should have been an option in the menu screen IMHO).
 

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Terminus said:
I have noticed that if i get impatient and try immediately starting after turning the key it can sometimes stumble the first time. I find it works better to turn the key and let the computer and other things fire up for a second or two before hitting the starter. You will hear a high pitch noise that I think is the fuel pump winding up and stopping? Right after that starting works pretty well. Maybe has nothing to do with it, but I have noticed it works better.

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Absolutely let the needle do a full swing and the sound of the fuel pump end before hitting the starter. Not doing so means that the fuel injector isn't pressurized, which would fit for what you describe. With your first start, it uses the existing fuel, then it starves so tha tyou need to start it a second time.
 

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Just as another data point, I never pay any special attention to how I start my 2012. I just turn it on and hit the button. It starts and keeps running every time for me.
Mine did come new from the dealer with the 14 battery.
These days, it's been around 40 degrees F when I start it to head to work in the morning.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
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Absolutely let the needle do a full swing and the sound of the fuel pump end before hitting the starter. Not doing so means that the fuel injector isn't pressurized, which would fit for what you describe. With your first start, it uses the existing fuel, then it starves so tha tyou need to start it a second time.
So if you turn the key on with the kill switch off then flip the kill switch on, the pump never comes on and the fuel injector isn't pressurized, correct?
 

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I always try to use the 5 second rule for start ups. Sometimes a lot longer, maybe I put on my gloves or helmet before hitting the start button. BTW I did mess up this morning when leaving from work. I turned the key on and waited not realizing the kill switch was on. I never hear the fuel pump cycle because of my poor hearing from years of neglect. Hit the start button 4 times before it fired up. Was half way home before I realized what I did wrong. Thanks for your help and advice on this. I'm really glad to be part of this forum.
 

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Flat lander said:
I always try to use the 5 second rule for start ups. Sometimes a lot longer, maybe I put on my gloves or helmet before hitting the start button. BTW I did mess up this morning when leaving from work. I turned the key on and waited not realizing the kill switch was on. I never hear the fuel pump cycle because of my poor hearing from years of neglect. Hit the start button 4 times before it fired up. Was half way home before I realized what I did wrong. Thanks for your help and advice on this. I'm really glad to be part of this forum.
On my 2012 model, I switched over to the newer combo start/stop/run switch (came standard on the 13 and up FJR and 14 and up Tenere), and never had an issue hearing the fuel pump cycle.
 
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