Spring 2015 - Romney, West Virginia - May 1-3

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Wow, Cravens Run has taken a serious beating over the winter! Great for the WR250 but I'll pass on it with the big bike.


Going the other extreme, do we have folks who want an easy-going 2-up route?
 

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Checkswrecks said:
Wow, Cravens Run has taken a serious beating over the winter! Great for the WR250 but I'll pass on it with the big bike.


Going the other extreme, do we have folks who want an easy-going 2-up route?
Personally, I don't plan on doing any "off-road" trails, but my boys will be bringing the xt600 and a klr250 just for fun. I downloaded the tracks in the beginning of the thread, but if you have others, I'll store them on the gps.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
The other will be a much more challenging ride of steep mountain dirt roads, loose gravel swtchbacks, minor water crossings, likely mud, and great paved twisties. Knobbies and skid plates highly recommended.
What day will this ride be? No GPS here I need a guide.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I've just about finalized my Friday and Saturday routes. Will be getting them out in the next couple of days so others can consider them. One is going to be easy forest roads and great twisties up through PA. No seriously challening terrain. The other will be a much more challenging ride of steep mountain dirt roads, loose gravel swtchbacks, minor water crossings, likely mud, and great paved twisties. Knobbies and skid plates highly recommended.
I'll definitely be up for the easy forest roads one! ::008::
 

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eemsreno said:
What day will this ride be? No GPS here I need a guide.
It is well over 200 miles, so that will need to be my Saturday ride. I have to do a shorter ride on Friday so I can be back to the dealership at a reasonable time. A lot of people will show up on Friday and many of them ask the same first question..."where's Dirt Dad?" I should be there for a good part of the later afternoon.

I've put the invitation out most years, but so far no one has been interested. I have a really nice route I can take towards home on Sunday. It includes my favorite VA/WV border crossing that my wife and I affectionately call "Swearing Hill." Let's just say she didn’t like it...and I heard about it over the bluetooth. There are a couple of mountains that are fun on the route. That course ends at the top of Mt. Weather, from there people can head off in whatever direction they need to go. It's not as challenging as the Saturday ride, but it will still get the heart pumping. I think that route may already be out there with previously published routes.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
It is well over 200 miles, so that will need to be my Saturday ride. I have to do a shorter ride on Friday so I can be back to the dealership at a reasonable time. A lot of people will show up on Friday and many of them ask the same first question..."where's Dirt Dad?" I should be there for a good part of the later afternoon.

I've put the invitation out most years, but so far no one has been interested.
I'm with on this Saturday ride. Just what I wanted to do. Sunday I'll be on the road early, Need to be back home Sunday.

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Snake, I'm at lunch so I can play on here now. :D
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
It is well over 200 miles, so that will need to be my Saturday ride. I have to do a shorter ride on Friday so I can be back to the dealership at a reasonable time. A lot of people will show up on Friday and many of them ask the same first question..."where's Dirt Dad?" I should be there for a good part of the later afternoon.
We're going to have enough people that I could take a longer forest road, good gravel road, group on Friday.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
It is well over 200 miles, so that will need to be my Saturday ride. I have to do a shorter ride on Friday so I can be back to the dealership at a reasonable time. A lot of people will show up on Friday and many of them ask the same first question..."where's Dirt Dad?" I should be there for a good part of the later afternoon.

I've put the invitation out most years, but so far no one has been interested. I have a really nice route I can take towards home on Sunday. It includes my favorite VA/WV border crossing that my wife and I affectionately call "Swearing Hill." ...
DD I would like to join your Saturday ride also and possibly Sunday as well. This morning I got the good news confirmation that my front rotor will be here next week so now I can join Romney.

If anyone from Houston TX area or a point on the way wants to ride to Romney the long, scenic and slow route shoot me a PM. I will leave on the 28th stitching together the entire lengths of the following; Talimena Scenic Dr, Cherohola Skyway, Tail of the Dragon detour loop, Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Dr.

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SilverBullet said:
DD I would like to join your Saturday ride also and possibly Sunday as well.
Don't limit yourself just yet. The majority of everyone at the event is going to arrive as a stranger to almost everyone else attending. One of the greatest things about being part of the adventure motorcycle community are all the fantastic people that make up our community. People arrive as strangers, but there's a lot of friendships being formed each night. It's for this reason that I usually do not start forming my ride group until the night before, or even the morning of. There's a reasonable chance you may hear of something, or meet someone who has a more interesting ride idea than mine (it happens). I don't want anyone feeling awkward or bad that they signed up with me too soon, and now would rather do something else. Come, enjoy, meet new friends, talk about ideas, then decide what you want to do.


This is probably a good chance for me to echo what Checkswrecks (CW) said earlier. There are no formal rides or ride leaders at the event. There are sure to be plenty of people who know their way around and will be interested in sharing their favorite WV ride. I'm sure there will be others from outside the area who have studied all the twisty lines on the map near here and looking to go exploring with new friends. No doubt there will be others who take some of the suggested routes that have been posted and use those for a day or two. However you decide you're going to ride, please remember the guy up front navigating for your group is most likely a guy just like you. He is responsible for his safety, and you are responsible for your safety. Do not assume the guy up front has any specialized riding experience that will keep you safe. You must keep yourself safe.

For those willing to show others around. Please have a chat with your prospective group. Let them know the way you intend to ride. Fast, sight seeing slow, or something in between. Please make everyone is aware of what to expect. A harmonious group with everyone knowing what is expect is more enjoyable. Smaller ride groups are most fun. Start getting over 7 people and for many the enjoyment diminishes as the group grows.

Shortly CW will be making rider information sheets (or whatever he calls them) available. Please fill them out. We had an incident last year that required a helicopter ride for one of our fellow riders. It was uneasy for everyone to realize we didn't know who he was. Please fill out the sheets and follow the recommendations that CW makes. We're fortunate to have to real emergency professional like CW in our group. I hope we don't need the sheets, but will be glad to have just in case.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
Don't limit yourself just yet. The majority of everyone at the event is going to arrive as a stranger to almost everyone else attending...
Yes agreed and understood, it was just your description of "a much more challenging ride of steep mountain dirt roads, loose gravel swtchbacks, minor water crossings, likely mud, and great paved twisties" is exactly what I was looking to do. Plus your reputation of even taking your wife into the rough stuff tells me you don't bypass the good stuff and I like that. I was afraid I might hook up with a group claiming to do a dirt ride and it turns out to be only forestry roads. I'm not spooning on a new set of big blocks prior to leaving for nothing.

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SilverBullet said:
Plus your reputation of even taking your wife into the rough stuff tells me you don't bypass the good stuff and I like that.
My wife is not always as enthuisastic about the places I spring on her.

I've asked the local ride who showed me around on Sunday to review my planned course. After I hear from him I'll be posting both my planned rides. I remember last year we kept running across people on some route that had been posted for the event. I suspect there will be more than one group making their way around the same course that weekend.

I'm comfortable with what I have planned. But there are bike bike riders around here like TrikePilot who will throw his Tenere into anyplace he'd throw his WR. I do have some limits. O:)
 

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More routes to consider.


Three State Tour: Cross the boarder from WV in PA on a wooden toll bridge ($.50). The bridge has no sides, so stay straight. As long as the conditions are dry, this is expected to be a casual ride on easy forest roads in Maryland. Once in PA this becomes a fantastic twisty paved ride to Breezewood at the north end of the route. Lots of food choices in Breezewood. The ride south from Breezewood also a great twisty ride. There is no ovelry challenging terrain anticipated in this route unless there are wet conditions. If wet you may want to find a way around the Green Ridge Forest section in MD.
Beware that Green Ridge Forest is actively patrolled. Their rangers will not hesitate to write you a ticket...this is Maryland.
Map: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7491872
(note you can download a .gpx file from this site by clicking the Export tab near the top right of the page)

Green Ridge Forest Road




Mountains and Mud: Recommend knobbies and skidplate. Big bike pilots may find this challenging. You should be very comfortable in the dirt to consider this ride. This route contains everything. Greenland Gap is a road woth slowing down to take in the waterfalls. Then up Mt Storm on banked twisty roads. Out to some nice twisties on Rt 50, then let the steep mountain dirt road begin. Up, down and up again. I've ridden two of the three mountains, they were both great. Looking forward to checking out the thrid. This course was layed out in this direction because the third mountain is steep enough it would be a handful to wrestle gravity with your brakes on a big bike. Easier to defeat gravity with the engine going up.
Next up is the mud, of course that depends on recent rain. Canyon Ridge Road, aka Douglas Road, very fun, can be considered rough. A rock base road that will have you picking lines the entire length. No significant elevation changes. There can be a lot of mud holes, and there are two minor water crossings. This road is a real treat, not too difficult, but not for those looking for a smooth forest road.
Many other fun features of this ride, including one of my favorite out and back ride over the mountian to the river. Love that one.
This route does include Dolly Sods. There are many places from which this ride can be cut short.
Map: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7491869
(note you can download a .gpx file from this site by clicking the Export tab near the top right of the page)

Canyon Ridge Road




Rough Road: Due to the horrible conditions on Cravens Run Road this route is not recommended for big bikes. It can be done, but it made me stop and laugh even on my DR. The road is in very bad condition.
This is a ride from Blackwater Falls to Dolly Sods. It includes the fun and rough Canyon Ridge Road with some minor (but interesting) water crossings. An out and back to a fire lookout tower. The high dirt road along the river, with a lot of nice elevation changes. It has the amazingly torn up Cravens Run Road. Also inclues a favorite out and back ride over the mountian to the river. Love that one. It then take you to to Dolly Sods. You can use some of the other published routes to figure out a good way back to Romeny.
Map: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7499263
(note you can download a .gpx file from this site by clicking the Export tab near the top right of the page)

Cravens Run Road



Fire Tower




Canaan Loop - Nice easy ride on the southern section. Could be done on a sport bike for the first 10 miles. Once it becomes rough it stays rough. Cannot do the full loop due to water crossing being too deep.



Example of nice section. Easy dirt for about 10 miles.



Example of rough stuff


Impassable water crossing (6+ feet deep)


View from inside Blackwater Falls park



Sport Touring: This is an all paved route that includes sweeping overlooks, a ride to the 500' wide Green Bank Telescope, great mountain twisties, the Cass Railroad Station, a visit to Seneca Rock, then back. The tour at Green Bank Telescope is worth a stop. If you find you are running out of time you can easily backtrack from the telescope to ride the twisties of Rt 250.
Note - if you do cross the Virginia border on Rt 250 for the twisties, watch your speed. We have horrible speeding laws in VA (20 over and you're coming back).

Map: Sport Tour - Greenbank Telescope



 

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Dirt_Dad said:
Impassable water crossing (6+ feet deep)
What?! Been on that road many times - even in my Soobie - albeit it has been a good while. Never encountered any 6ft deep stream crossings. What happened? Did a big flood come through and auger out a streambed? Such a shame as that is a kick ass loop that I was gonna try and ride while up there. Might just still try it....
 

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I was riding with a local guy who told me it was currently 6 to 7 feet deep. I took his word for it and didn't press my luck.
 

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SilverBullet said:
If anyone from Houston TX area or a point on the way wants to ride to Romney the long, scenic and slow route shoot me a PM. I will leave on the 28th stitching together the entire lengths of the following; Talimena Scenic Dr, Cherohola Skyway, Tail of the Dragon detour loop, Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Dr.
If you've never done BRP & Skyline Dr...good plan (you should do this for the scenery).

But there are a lot of more exciting ways to come north through the mountains...even if you want to follow BRP, if the roads that cross over it can be worked in, you will enjoy!

If you need/want any suggestions PM me.

See you in WV.
 

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Just wondering if Dirt_Dad or anyone else familiar with the area knows if these other roads are passable for a detour???

Maybe they are just hiking trails?
 

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MojoToot said:
If you've never done BRP & Skyline Dr...good plan (you should do this for the scenery).
Yes my first time on a bike. I'm also looking forward to packing away the GPS and maps and just riding for ~600 miles. Can't get lost on the BRP, no navigation needed until the end of Skyline.

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MojoToot said:
Just wondering if Dirt_Dad or anyone else familiar with the area knows if these other roads are passable for a detour???

Maybe they are just hiking trails?
MojoToot
The answer on the detour almost depends on the day. One of the things fairly common are the closed gates on these roads. It's not uncommon (and aggravating) to run a road from one end where the gate was open, and several miles later at the far end find a closed gate.

On a related note, Jon posted a photo of his bike on what looked like a concrete road that has water running across it. Most folks familiar with the area will recognize it as a crossing at Seneca Rocks. This is a photo of the same spot I just tripped across, taken a year ago and the water was probably 3+ feet lower.
 

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I know these long range forecasts aren't highly accurate but it looks like it will be wet on Friday, 75% of .5" of rain.

Steve
 

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