And the spoke issue…These bikes are ridin 95% on road and when they are takin off road its some fire road or gravel easy ride …95 % of the time…Lets face it these bikes are great machines but are just to heavy for the big rough stuff…Just watch some youtube vids and i think most would agree. So whats with the spoke only wheels anything this bike is capable off could be handled by some nice cast wheels and do away with the loose spoke issue. ::009::