I guess we need somebody to test that out. I can verify 90 but not that illegal 95!The S10 was capable of cruising at 95mph for an hour straight, hypothetically of course.
I guess we need somebody to test that out. I can verify 90 but not that illegal 95!The S10 was capable of cruising at 95mph for an hour straight, hypothetically of course.
Well said Robert!! My thought exactly!!I was just looking for a tough, dependable motorcycle that was comfortable, and handled good. Found one.
KTM claims that the quality control is just fine on these Chinese built bikes. When they moved their production of all 890 and smaller twins to China, they said this wouldn't happen.If it were only a couple issues, I would feel the same way but with all the one's I've had I just don't trust it. Here's a rundown of the problems I've had since I bought it a month ago. Yes, I said in one month and 1,000 miles!
1. Recall on brake line prior to buying the bike.
2. Brake light replaced prior to buying bike.
3. Cruise Control quit working after the first day. (Dealer spent two weeks trying to fix it and after replacing multiple parts, KTM flew in a tech who eventually fixed it after spending a solid week, 8 hrs a day working on it.)
4. Oil leak around from sprocket shaft
5. Condensation in TFT screen after picking up from dealer (after they had it for two weeks trying to fix CC)
6. Ran out of gas on the way home from dealer because fuel gauge quit working and was reading half a tank when it was empty.
7. Whatever is next
As you can see KTM quality control is not even in the same universe as Yamaha. Other KTM owners tell me it's just minor but for me a bike (or any vehicle) should work as designed form day one, you know like a Yamaha does!
Maybe that's what I remember seeing. Currently they have headlights, but no siglnals. But, yeah, the prices on some of those 600-800cc bikes. . . . . . . . makes the T12 a bargain. Yes, I do understand that it's a apples & oranges comparison. But, if you can only have one bike. . . . you can't get the one trick pony.It's not permitted in Kalifornia, but you used to be able to plate dirt/enduro bikes in some other states with a few dollars in upgrades. I remember the WR450 being a popular one.
The 2020 KTM 790 was made in Austria. They move to China in September of this year which may be delayed because of the Kung-flu. It may get worse once that transition happens! The midsize bikes are what is moving. Of course the BMW already makes many of its engines in ChinaKTM claims that the quality control is just fine on these Chinese built bikes. When they moved their production of all 890 and smaller twins to China, they said this wouldn't happen.
As a KTM owner, with three orange bikes in my garage, I hate seeing stuff like this. Makes me cringe.
Hos is your T7 on the freeway at about 85? Is it comfortable, could you run that speed for a few hours?It sounds to me a lot of people fall into the manufacture advertising, social media and YouTube trap. Then find them selves on a motorcycle that was never intended to do what they thought it could or should that be what they thought they could unless your a professional and then some.
The Super Tenere is a large long distance touring motorcycle (road bike) that was never intended for off road use that you would find a trail or dirt bike on, like you see so much on Youtube.
It is a perfect motorcycle for what it was intended to do, carry your gear over long distances over varying "road" conditions and that is the key. NOT over varying terrain and trails but roads.
Unfortunately, social media has taking this to a place it was never intended, unless your 6ft 4" and pro circuit level rider and then what fun is that on dirt single tracks.
That is why Yamaha has the smaller brothers of Tenere and now the T7.
I picked up my T7 in May and it fills the gap perfect that the 1200 did not on off trail excursion. BUT when it comes to long distance riding the S10 is my #1 choice.
The T7 is real nice off tarmac and as a short distance weekend explorer will keep you grinning but if your planning multi week cross continental trek the Super tenere 1200 hands down is the better option. Owning both that's my opinion.
Just be sure that your source is correct and reread it very carefully.The 2020 KTM 790 was made in Austria. They move to China in September of this year which may be delayed because of the Kung-flu. It may get worse once that transition happens! The midsize bikes are what is moving. Of course the BMW already makes many of its engines in China
Better yet everyone can read the announcement from KTM!!!Just be sure that your source is correct and reread it very carefully.
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First. That's not "from KTM". Second, there's an awful lot of detail missing. Scan for 2018 KTM partnership with CFMoto. You'll find a lot more info.Better yet everyone can read the announcement from KTM!!!
KTM joins forces with CFMoto and shifts part of production to China. - MoreBikes
KTM’s shifting a chunk of its production to China – and it’s building a new 2,300 square metre factory in partnership with CFMoto.www.morebikes.co.uk
Hos is your T7 on the freeway at about 85? Is it comfortable, could you run that speed for a few hours?
Still able to be done easily in Arizona, you can plate just about anything for street use there! Nevada has gone back and forth on this as well, currently allowing you to do so. I was at one time looking at plating a WR450, but once the T12 was announced, it was an easy decision, especially coming off of the FJR...It's not permitted in Kalifornia, but you used to be able to plate dirt/enduro bikes in some other states with a few dollars in upgrades. I remember the WR450 being a popular one.
If it were only a couple issues, I would feel the same way but with all the one's I've had I just don't trust it. Here's a rundown of the problems I've had since I bought it a month ago. Yes, I said in one month and 1,000 miles!
1. Recall on brake line prior to buying the bike.
2. Brake light replaced prior to buying bike.
3. Cruise Control quit working after the first day. (Dealer spent two weeks trying to fix it and after replacing multiple parts, KTM flew in a tech who eventually fixed it after spending a solid week, 8 hrs a day working on it.)
4. Oil leak around from sprocket shaft
5. Condensation in TFT screen after picking up from dealer (after they had it for two weeks trying to fix CC)
6. Ran out of gas on the way home from dealer because fuel gauge quit working and was reading half a tank when it was empty.
7. Whatever is next
As you can see KTM quality control is not even in the same universe as Yamaha. Other KTM owners tell me it's just minor but for me a bike (or any vehicle) should work as designed form day one, you know like a Yamaha does!