Side Stand Turn

[holligl]

After seeing Bret Tracs demo this online, I am wondering whether to try this with the S10. Balance the bike with the side stand straight up and down and rotate the bike 180 degrees. Anyone here tried it? What could possibly go wrong??

 

[Sierra1]

I've done it before, but not my preferred. If you get the balance right, it spins on a dime very easily. And I do trust Yamaha's stand more than Beemer's, but that's 600+ pound on a thin piece of metal. (the Beemer stand snapped, and I never did this with it) "I" prefer using the center stand. Push down on the back of the bike and push. On pavement it spins rather easily and stays stable.

 

[EricV]

I too have done it, but it's not something I would do unless the actual need arises. Regardless of anyone's opinion, it's a lot of weight to carefully move around on one small point. There is simply more potential for errors to occur and end up with you hurt or the bike on it's side.

Ask yourself when this is really necessary? And why you're doing it? Because it looks cool isn't an acceptable answer.

 

[Sierra1]

Yes. Because when my RT side stand snapped, it was quite the surprise. I stopped, put the stand down, started leaning the bike onto the stand . . . . and it just kept going. By the time I knew something was wrong, it was past that point of no return. Everybody laughed because they thought I had forgotten to put the kick stand down. The dealership accused me of sitting on the bike while on the side stand. Which I never did because that bike was 600+lbs, plus my 300lbs. Not going to rely on that pencil thin piece of metal.

 

[holligl]

I have done quite a few 10+ point turns on narrow trails where this could have been quicker. I have used the side side as a bead breaker but never tried this. I would not use it just for show, just like I don't do his rolling mounts and dismounts.

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[EricV]

@holligl - helping

 

[Sierra1]

I have done quite a few 10+ point turns on narrow trails where this could have been quicker. . . .

"Desperate times call for desperate measures".

 

[Checkswrecks]

I've done it before, but not my preferred. If you get the balance right, it spins on a dime very easily. And I do trust Yamaha's stand more than Beemer's, but that's 600+ pound on a thin piece of metal. (the Beemer stand snapped, and I never did this with it) "I" prefer using the center stand. Push down on the back of the bike and push. On pavement it spins rather easily and stays stable.

Likewise on all counts

 

[RCinNC]

I think I'd rather try putting the centerstand down, then getting off the bike, grabbing the front wheel, and dragging the bike from the front so the bike pivots on the centerstand. It seems like it would be a lot less prone to disaster than trying to balance a 700 pound bike on a sidestand.

 

[Sierra1]

I've never even thought about pulling the front around. I've always pushed down and forward on seat and rack. Same difference, but I'd be afraid of pulling the bike off of the center stand.

 

[RCinNC]

I just went out in the garage and tried it. It works fine. You don't even need to grab the front wheel; you just have to push down on the seat a little to unweight the front wheel, and you can spin the bike on the centerstand just by pushing or pulling against the rear side of the bike.

 

[gv550]

I spin mine around regularly in my garage using the center stand, never the side stand. I doubt if either stand would work on anything but concrete or cool asphalt, the leg would just sink into dirt.

 

[Cycledude]

Is this the video you are referring to ?
The guy definitely has very good bike handling skills !

 

[Highwayman]

Yes. Because when my RT side stand snapped, it was quite the surprise. I stopped, put the stand down, started leaning the bike onto the stand . . . . and it just kept going. By the time I knew something was wrong, it was past that point of no return. Everybody laughed because they thought I had forgotten to put the kick stand down. The dealership accused me of sitting on the bike while on the side stand. Which I never did because that bike was 600+lbs, plus my 300lbs. Not going to rely on that pencil thin piece of metal.

Yikes..... Pretty much a done deal mounting a GS on its sidestand for me (5-10).... These stories of BMW stand busting is worrisome.... Its a pretty darn important piece of equipment (seeing they dont hold themselves up) and should easily hold bike side stand weight x2 minimum IMO. Last thing Id want is the sucker falling over onto my other bikes mounting it in the garage.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . These stories of BMW stand busting is worrisome....

"I" had never heard of it before, but the dealership had. Apparently, sitting on the bike while it was on the sidestand was their conclusion. But I know that I had never done so.

 

[Highwayman]

"I" had never heard of it before, but the dealership had. Apparently, sitting on the bike while it was on the sidestand was their conclusion. But I know that I had never done so.

It's been an issue for awhile.... I know a motor on our dept who had one break on a stop on his RTP and that had to be almost 15 years ago now.

 

[eemsreno]

I use the side stand on my 12 to spin the bike around on in tight situations a lot. Especially when I'm on a dry track with mud on both sides. The side stand is steel on the 12.
Just yesterday while riding the 17 with my wife we went down a dirt road to a river crossing [way to deep to cross] and when we got ready to leave I tipped the bike up on the side stand to spin it around and was looking at that aluminum stand as I started to spin it and it did not look like a good idea. I think it would have snapped. I also have a large foot on the 17 stand and that would put way more stress on the aluminum stand to spin in the dirt. It is a great way to spin the 12 when alone in the boonies but I'll pass on trying it with the 17.

 

[holligl]

Is this the video you are referring to ?
The guy definitely has very good bike handling skills !

yes

 

[Mad_Matt]

I do this all the time with my 690. It's amazing once you hit the balance point; the bike will pivot with nearly no effort. I am 90% sure this is also why my side stand bends at a strange angle on my 690.

I've tried to pull this off with the Super Tenere a few times in the garage, but I have never gotten anywhere near the balance point. The risk of not hitting the balance point correctly between a 350-lb KTM and a 700-lb Super Tenere has prevented me from exploring this further.

 

[Cycledude]

You ain’t going to break the generation 1 or 2 Yamaha side stand, they are built way stronger than the BMW side stands. Since Mad-Matt has attempted the turn around thing with his Yamaha and couldn’t get it to work I guess I won’t even be attempting it.

My BMW riding friend actually had his side stand break while we were on a trip, he managed to find a place to reweld it without even removing it from the bike, seems to be still holding together fine a few years later.