Electrolyse
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yeah 2020 was terrible, awful, I would like to believe we will have a better future but I have some doubts2020 has been a difficult year. All my planned trips got cancelled. Looking forward to a better future.
yeah 2020 was terrible, awful, I would like to believe we will have a better future but I have some doubts2020 has been a difficult year. All my planned trips got cancelled. Looking forward to a better future.
hum, I wonder what suspension is more comfortable, yours or the EZ. Did you tried an EZ to compare ?I bought a non ES model but next month I will be having the suspension tuned by MCT. I’m about 200lb and I will get the suspension revalved and resprung to suit my weight but with a clear indication on where to set it for the few occasions when I ride two up touring. My previous experience with MCT is that they can get OEM suspension close to the performance of Ohlins etc by changing valves and springs etc. Ride in service costs around £500 and takes half a day
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You are correct on the rebound/dampening adjustments. I wonder when riders complain about sliding forward on the seat, it is actually a fast rebound. It happened to me recently.There's been speculation that the spring rate(s) might be different. There's more than a couple of guys that don't believe the OE suspension gets the job done. There's some that have done sag measurements, and calculations, that show (on paper) that the bike is under sprung. Of course, there's just as many that is totally happy with the OE setup; me being one of them. I'm 300lbs solo, and 450 with passenger. The rebound/dampening adjustments are the key.
Hello Major E !Hello from the Washington, D.C. area. I have a 2016 ES and can't imagine going back to adjusting the suspension manually. I find the menu for adjustment easy and pretty intuitive, and it is SO easy to make changes until you find the exactly right setting for you on the types of roads you use. And, if I go to an area with substantially different roads, I can change the suspension easily and then change it back easily. If, as I understand, the ES/EZ in your country comes with all the listed options, then it is definitely worth the extra money. I can't imagine not having a center stand -- the bike on the side stand is a bit unstable (and, as you know, there are many other benefits to a center stand). The same for the heated grips. By the way, I have some aluminum bags from Touratech and I highly recommend them over the Yamaha bags, which I hear have problems.
. . . . I have some aluminum bags from Touratech and I highly recommend them over the Yamaha bags, which I hear have problems.
1) The actual Yamaha bag is not the issue. They're tough, good amount of room, look good, and has almost invisible mounting hardware when the bags are off. If you're not going to use them very often . . . . and for as cheap as you can find them for. . . . they're ok. I have them, and am satisfied with them, BUT, I don't use them often, and payed less than half price for all three boxes.. . . . I was also thinking about Touratech bags, but now I'm sure I wont get Yamaha's bags, thank for that
3 -> Those are actually the Givi Outback cases1) The actual Yamaha bag is not the issue. They're tough, good amount of room, look good, and has almost invisible mounting hardware when the bags are off. If you're not going to use them very often . . . . and for as cheap as you can find them for. . . . they're ok. I have them, and am satisfied with them, BUT, I don't use them often, and payed less than half price for all three boxes.
2) The issue is the lock; it sucks pretty hard.
3) The Tenere Raid edition has aftermarket boxes, that come OE, that are much better. Can't remember who makes them, but they will cost more.
Hi Electrolyse,Hey gals, guys,
I'm from Switzerland (nobody's perfect), and after months (literally) of reflection I am gonna buys a S10. My very first one and second Yamaha (first one was my first bike, a 600XT which I loved too much)
And I have a question : does the extra money for a ZE worth it ?
I can get a 2016 non ZE for 10k CHF (or USD it is the same almost), 17 000km with yamaha paniers + top case + arrow exhaust (which i dont like) OR
a (many) ZE from 2017 to 2019, naked (no options) but with less than 10 000km for 11 000-13 000CHF.
thanks for your help
ps : I usually ride 10 000 to 15 000 per year, but now I'll make 6000-8000km per year
Stephane
As far as reliability goes i can just say i've seen no reports of issues in the forum i followhow's the reliability of the ES system? Is it rebuildable? I tend to put stupid miles on stuff.... Seems like everybody digs it though.