Riding off the edge of the tire...any thoughts?

[Nimbus]

So I had a fantastic vacation day ride to the Blue Ridge mountains today (almost 470 miles, 60-70 degrees ::001:. This was the first time that I got to enjoy the Flashed bike on excellent roads and it is truly fantastic; the bike really jumps out of corners now. Truly a transformed machine.

My question is this: has anybody else run off the side of the rear tire? I have Pilot Road 3s and they are astoundingly great. 5000 miles to Colorado and back and they weren't square. Sticky and long lived, but today, after I got back home I noticed that the Michelin man and the direction arrow that was beside him are worn off. Scarily, upon closer inspection I could see where I've actually beveled the absolute edge of the tire too. It isn't uniform around the entire tire, but occurs in several spots (several inches long). I have always hung off the bike in hard cornering, especially since the S10 drags things so easily, but it didn't occur to me that it'd be possible to run off the edge of the tire. Has anybody else ever seen this? The front does not come close to the edge. Pressure was 33f/39r when I left the house in the AM.

 

[coastie]

Not sure because I run with my toes on the pegs and I grind pegs and have worn the edge of my boots down. But I still have chicken strips on my 60's.

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[Kidder]

Not that difficult really. I have zero chicken strips on the rear and minimal on the front. I'm sure others have zero on the front. The first pic is the rear. I use Continental Trail Attacks.

 

[Kidder]

Oops, the above pic is the front. Here is the rear.

 

[Nimbus]

Not that difficult really. I have zero chicken strips on the rear and minimal on the front. I'm sure others have zero on the front. The first pic is the rear. I use Continental Trail Attacks.

What's not that difficult? I don't get the point of your post. My question is whether others have actually run over the side of the rear? I'm, apparently, well past zero chicken strips. I guess I want to know what I can do about it short of either slowing down or buying a new bike.

 

[snakebitten]

What's wrong with the bike?

It handles good enough to use the entire surface of the tire. That's a flaw?

You guys are wild. I got chicken stripes. Aptly named I guess. Too chicken to push any harder.

 

[autoteach]

Tire pressures are rather important in this aspect. On my race bike (kx85 supermoto...I KNOW) I am running 18 psi. aggressive conditions call for vastly different pressures for one, and two- if you aren't using all the tire front and rear, it isn't a huge issue but I would look into sag settings and suspension set up to maximize handling to ride like this.

 

[Kidder]

What's not that difficult? I don't get the point of your post. My question is whether others have actually run over the side of the rear? I'm, apparently, well past zero chicken strips. I guess I want to know what I can do about it short of either slowing down or buying a new bike.

Ah, I misread your post. Maybe take a picture of what you are talking about. Now I understand why my post didn't make a whole lot of sense to you. Sorry. I run 36/42 in my tires. Your pressures seem okay to me.

 

[tomatocity]

I am one of those riders that always have chicken strips but... you can get rid of them simply by riding deeper into the turns, brake harder, turn tighter and lean. Or you can just ride a smoother line and a more reasonable speed and you will get better tire and gas mileage.

I like to find a less traveled road and ride the speed limit and ride in the center of the lines in your lane. Many of the back roads have a 55 mph speed limit which is way too fast for me. Forgot to mention... try not using brakes. This exercise lets you work on throttle control and road siting and will scrub off chicken strips.

 

[Nimbus]

For reference, I may have trail-braked once all day yesterday. I'm not typically a run it in fast on the brakes kind of guy, more of "The Pace" kind of rider. Always in my lane, always on my chosen line. Thanks Autoteach for the input about sag/etc. I never bothered to set it on this beast, I just stiffened it up front/rear and it doesn't do anything wrong (except maybe the tire thing). I'll try to get a pic today. Again, not complaining about the bike in the least, just wondered what's going on. I never fail to appreciate how the big girl can really dance.

 

[Don in Lodi]

Is it possible the tire's profile just isn't made for those lean angles? Your picture doesn't look like the Pilot 3's that I find on the web. Yours look like the Conti Trail Attacks. If they were the Pilot 3's I saw, I think they have more wrap around on the tread. Dual Sport tires aren't meant to be raced in my experience. Stouter, stronger tread, taller sidewall for flex = less tread total width. And the answer to your questions; yes to slowing down, yes to getting sport oriented tires.

 

[Kidder]

Is it possible the tire's profile just isn't made for those lean angles? Your picture doesn't look like the Pilot 3's that I find on the web. Yours look like the Conti Trail Attacks. If they were the Pilot 3's I saw, I think they have more wrap around on the tread. Dual Sport tires aren't meant to be raced in my experience. Stouter, stronger tread, taller sidewall for flex = less tread total width. And the answer to your questions; yes to slowing down, yes to getting sport oriented tires.

I posted the pic of the Trail Attacks, not the person who started this thread.

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[Nimbus]

Let me try the picture:

 

[Icecold Dan]

So are you saying you ran the tires beyond the tread onto the sidewall itself? If that is the case, then I'd say your pressures are off.

 

[Don in Lodi]

I posted the pic of the Trail Attacks, not the person who started this thread.

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Ah! Points are still good though... :-[

 

[sportsguy]

Could be tire pressure is allowing flex and its enough to allow the tire to rub against the swing arm, etc. This assumes the tire is wider than stock, of course.

 

[Nimbus]

So are you saying you ran the tires beyond the tread onto the sidewall itself? If that is the case, then I'd say your pressures are off.

So you can see what I'm talking about in the pic I posted; the pressure was 39 on the rear (figuring that I've always gotten a bit more life out of a little higher pressure).

 

[Duconce]

That looks pretty normal to me, I have the stock Batwings and they wear the same way. The beveling is from braking. I guess i should clarify that, trail braking.