Returning To The Fold - A Couple Of Questions

[Haynes]

I am returning to Super Tenere ownership after a 2 year absence. Previously I owned a 2013 and have just placed a deposit on a 2024. Forgive me but I have a couple of questions that I have been unable to find simple answers to, despite running many searches on this forum.

1) My understanding is that there are 2 generations of the Super Tenere: 2010-2013 and 2014-current. Have there been any significant changes from 2014 to 2024 that would make using a service manual from an earlier Gen 2 bike a bad idea when doing basic work on my 2024? I do simple jobs, like tire changes, driveshaft lubing, brake pads, and fluid changes, and I am not about to start tearing into the engine's internals. I have the opportunity to purchase a used service manual for a 2020 ES and want to make sure that I'm not wasting my money.

2) Further to the above question, involving changes within the range of Gen 2 bikes, I am trying to purchase various farkles for my new Super Tenere in advance of the spring rush, and of course I'm not finding anything for a 2024. Will any/all accessories that fit earlier Gen 2 bikes fit my 2024 (2023's appear to be identical, even in colour)? I am specifically shopping for bar risers, crash bars, skid plate, and various other protectors: U-joint, rear brake slave cylinder, headlight guard, fender extender. Can I purchase items that say, for example "2015-2019 Super Tenere" and know that they'll fit, or are there some items that are specific to a certain year even amongst the Gen 2 bikes?

3) Sadly I see that AltRider is no longer making bars and plates, or anything else it seems, for the Super Tenere. I'm not looking for folks to chime in with recommendations of various bars and plates however if you have experience with a certain plate with respect to the ease of doing an oil and filtre change, please chime in. I was leaning towards the Outback Motortek bars and plate however after watching their video it appears that the plate must be removed for even an oil only change and it looks like removing the plate would be more involved than I'd like. On the other hand, the GIVI plate, while not as robust, appears to have drain holes for oil only changes, and to be very easy to remove for a filtre change.

Thanks in advance.
Haynes

 

[Boris]

No significant changes within the years of Gen2 bikes. Any Gen 2 manual will suffice.

Yes.

 

[bimota]

boris is right, and any farkle that fits a 2014 gen 2 will fit your 2024 bike

rob

 

[thughes317]

Welcome back. If you find farkles that you like and they're in stock, grab em. With the S10 being discontinued in the EU, some of the aftermarket manufacturers aren't pumping out the goodies like they used to. (e.g. Altrider)

 

[ncpkwyrider747]

Welcome back. I just purchased a '23 model and love it. Yamaha US website doesn't even show a '24 model that I can see. Interesting that they're keeping the color the same in '24.

 

[Sierra1]

I would think that with the exception of the header and windshield, most Gen 1 farkels will fit Gen 2. T-Rex is still making plates and bars, but are currently sold out. Their website doesn't say discontinued though.

 

[whisperquiet]

My Gen 1 Givi crash bars and SW Motech detachable luggage racks fit my Gen 2 ES bike.

 

[Madhatter]

tuoratech luggage racks for gen 1 fit gen 2 , neither tuoratech or alt rider do much to support the big girl . the bike is still great at 2024 as it was in the beginning just a bit more difficult to out fit ... happy trails may still offer stuff for it . good luck

 

[Haynes]

Thank you all for your very quick responses, I can tell that there's a great community here. Let the farkling begin!

Haynes

 

[lund]

I installed the Outback Motortek in combination with ACD skid.
The only advice I can say is depending on how your planning to use the bike.
This bike as your aware is heavy, and there is basically 2 types of armor skid. One is more of a ricochet platting. They are cheaper to purchase, thinner and generally mounted to the engine or components of the engine. These plates work extremely well for what they are design to do but a full weighted bike impact will crush them and can cause serious component damage. Many of these though do not require plate removal for oil changes.
The Heavy duty skid like ACD and some others are frame mounted, extra think but will take direct hits and impacts. The down side is you may have to remove it to do an oil change and they add more weight to an already heavy bike. Plus you do lose ground clearance with these big plates.

As for crash bars, off road they are more of a drop protection. Any real speed involving a crash increases the likely hood of sustaining damage.
The Motortek are extremely well proven to prevent serious damage in the case of a drop or low speed drop. They are compact and lightweight and designed to take a good impact without flexing or bending because of the short runners. Unlike many with extended unsupported runners and cages that add more weight then provide real protection.
Just keep in mind, its a heavy bike, sometimes adding weight by big protection is not the best way to protect the bike.
A light bike is always easier to ride and handle and less likely to be dropped.
My bike, with the addition of the ACD skid(heavy) and addition of Motortek bars(not heavy) I have removed more weight then added with simple exhaust change. My bike is lighter then the day I took it home from the dealer, but it is still a heavy bike and everything you add increases that weight unless you figure on removing some in other places.

 

[TenereGUY]

I really like the T-Rex Racing belly pan. I can change oil and filter without removing it. The drain holes are positioned to drain with the bike on the side stand. Oil drains straight down no mess. A little dribbles back from the filter removal but a little wipe with a rag takes care of that. Call them up and they may ship you one quickly even though they say they are out of stock.

 

[Jlq1969]

You would have to divide the story in another way:
2010-2013..
2014-….(-)2017….
+2017-today…..
The 2014 ss manual will help you, only that the. +2017 fault codes are now erased using a scanner.
You cannot deactivate the abs using the centerstand without a permanent check engine fault appearing and needing to erase it using a scanner (cheap, you can do it with the phone)...but in the +2017, there is no longer access to the ecu through the buttons on the dashboard

 

[Haynes]

Once again, thanks to everyone who chimed in. I will be shopping for 2014+ farkles and a 2017+ service manual.

Cheers.
Haynes

 

[TenereGUY]

I have a set of large caps for the head light that I am not using and a water Pump shield that I won't be using too.

 

[Haynes]

I really like the T-Rex Racing belly pan. I can change oil and filter without removing it. The drain holes are positioned to drain with the bike on the side stand. Oil drains straight down no mess. A little dribbles back from the filter removal but a little wipe with a rag takes care of that. Call them up and they may ship you one quickly even though they say they are out of stock.

I just got an email from T-Rex saying that the bars and plates are back in stock. There's a promo code that'll get me $50 off if I order today, so $449.95 but . . . shipping to Canada is $220! Add to that brokerage fees and taxes that are applied at the the border, and the exchange rate, and YIKES!

I have used T-Rex bars on another bike and they are certainly well built. Their bars, and especially their skid plate for the Super Tenere, look very robust and are probably more protection than I'll ever need: my lunatic-inspired, off-roading days are behind me. I need tip-over protection in case I drop the bike in my garage, and something to protect the oil filtre, as its position on the front of the engine just looks like it's asking to be pierced by some foreign object. I have a line on the Givi bars and skid plate and while I don't believe that they're anywhere near as protective as the T-Rex items, they're probably all I need. I'm not crazy about the design of the Givi bars, but for a few dollars more I can get the SW-Motech bars, which I like. I was unable to find a SW-Motech skid plate.

By the way, I've also ruled out Outback Motortek bars and plates as it appears that you have to remove the plate for even an oil-only oil change, and that it would be quite the ordeal to remove the plate. Perhaps I'm wrong about this, and if so please correct me.

Haynes

 

[Saint rob]

By the way, I've also ruled out Outback Motortek bars and plates as it appears that you have to remove the plate for even an oil-only oil change, and that it would be quite the ordeal to remove the plate. Perhaps I'm wrong about this, and if so please correct me.

If you change the bolts on the front mounting points to studs then removing the plate to change the oil/filter is no big deal

 

[Drif10]

Your Canadian spec bike is different in a couple of other aspects. Both are with the ecu.

The key has an immobilizer security feature not in the American models. That's what the red key is all about, do not lose that thing, because without it there is no way to encode new keys into the system, you have to drop 4k on a new one.

Also, because of that security feature, getting the ecu flashed is a lot trickier. Which is something you really want to do, even in stock trim. Big improvements in rideability and handling when done. Matt at Speedlabs in Newmarket can do it, his personal bike is also a sooperten.

Another little thing is that you can't access the CO2 settings in the menu. That's a simple little way to richen things up a bit (they're set lean from the factory to meet emissions). Again, a tune will make this unnecessary.

As another poster mentioned, buy the accessories you can find, because they're hard to find now. Companies make goodies for the new hotness, not these older models.

I'm near Kingston, btw.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . getting the ecu flashed is a lot trickier. Which is something you really want to do, even in stock trim. Big improvements in rideability and handling when done. . . .

How on Earth does an ECU flash effect handling?

 

[Mad_Matt]

How on Earth does an ECU flash effect handling?

 

[Haynes]

Your Canadian spec bike is different in a couple of other aspects. Both are with the ecu.

The key has an immobilizer security feature not in the American models. That's what the red key is all about, do not lose that thing, because without it there is no way to encode new keys into the system, you have to drop 4k on a new one.

Also, because of that security feature, getting the ecu flashed is a lot trickier. Which is something you really want to do, even in stock trim. Big improvements in rideability and handling when done. Matt at Speedlabs in Newmarket can do it, his personal bike is also a sooperten.

Another little thing is that you can't access the CO2 settings in the menu. That's a simple little way to richen things up a bit (they're set lean from the factory to meet emissions). Again, a tune will make this unnecessary.

As another poster mentioned, buy the accessories you can find, because they're hard to find now. Companies make goodies for the new hotness, not these older models.

I'm near Kingston, btw.

I am aware of the red key/immobilizer thing: This will be my second Super Tenere and I have also owned 2 FJRs, but thanks for the reminder. I'll also keep Speedlabs in mind - didn't know about the ECU flash.

Your point (and others') about buying what I can as soon as I find it is well taken. I had my last Super Tenere (2013) fully farkled with AltRider bits, but as others had said these items are no longer being produced. Even Yamaha has apparently stopped making a lot of accessories for this bike, for example: no crash bars, no headlight protectors. Then I found Amazon and AliExpress (much cheaper), however I did order the Wind Deflectors from Yamaha as I found that these were very effective on my last Super Tenere and the ones on AliExpress didn't look quite the same.

So I have pulled the trigger on the SW-Motech bars, which were apparently the last set that FortNine had as they're now listed as out of stock, and the Givi skid plate, as the SW-Motech skid plate was out of stock. I also ordered a bunch of small bits from AliExpress: U-joint protector, rear brake slave cyclinder protector, side stand switch protector, etc. I hated ordering from AliExpress but I was left with no other choice.

Haynes
PS: Northern Ontario