Reservations are NOT transferrable?

[markjenn]

You are still misinformed, Mark. You misunderstand the "dealer" concept. Dealers are just that, middlemen. that's why they call them "dealers", they work the deal. They are just salespeople with a manufacturers franchise. You pay them, they take their cut, and send the final payment to the manufacturer. If what you say were true, each "dealer" would be individually responsible for all warranty liability on all of the products(including motorcycles and toasters) they "Deal" in. Outfits like Best Buy(dealer) will replace defective products up to a certain time frame. Beyond that, you must go to the Manufacturer. Exchange programs are a convenience to the customer in order that they don't have to go through the hassle of dealing with shipping items back and forth to the manufacturer and return. Best Buy is compensated for providing this service, but have no real liability other than truthful marketing.

Example: let's say you purchase a used 2011 motorcycle from the original retail purchaser. A private owner. Would that person be liable for the warranty on the machine? Nope. But technically, he's a "dealer", unlicensed or not. Why isn't he responsible? From a personal merchant standpoint, his ONLY obligation arises "IF" he misrepresents the bike to you. Even then, caveat emptor (buyer beware) prevails, and there's little you can do other than small claims court (good luck with THAT!). Same for your local Yamaha dealer. If the product is defective, the manufacturer is the responsible party.

Incidently, dealers DO NOT receive a title on new motorcycles received in their dealership. The original title is issued by your state title agency to the first retail purchaser.

Paul

Warranties are a separate contract independent of the sale of a vehicle. As I said in another thread, let's drop it.

- Mark

 

[SisuTen]

Warranties are a separate contract independent of the sale of a vehicle. As I said in another thread, let's drop it.

- Mark

As I said in another thread, you started this, not me. I have no intention of letting you off the hook when you are wrong and are misleading members of the forum. Prove me wrong.

Incidentally, Factory warranties ARE normally fully supported by the manufacturer. They may, depending upon the company, be fulfilled by other divisions or outside vendors, but are included in the purchase contract. Do you sign a separate warranty contract when you purchase a vehicle? Nope. If you buy an extended warranty, you may, but only because they are provided by outside vendors. That's why you can buy them on Ebay and the price can vary. In any case, dealers definitely have no stake or responsibility regarding warranties.

I get the impression that you have never read what you signed when you bought a vehicle. Your assumptions about contracts and culpability may bite you in the a** someday.

Paul

 

[Koinz]

8)

Guys, it almost sounds like your saying the same thing, but it's coming out differently.

I just bought a used car tonight, something economical to get to work and back and I purchased an extended warranty.

The vehicle still has some warranty left which is transferred to me as a result of the purchase through the dealer. The extended warranty is also through the manufacturer, but sold as an additional contract through the dealer.

So if I understand your comments, you're both saying something similar, but in different context.(original warranty vs extended). In either case the dealer simply acts on the warranty unless there is a dispute and then the factory rep is brought in to pass judgement.

The owner of the warranty is the oem or the third party vendor. Not the dealer.

 

[joedec]

Well Gentlemen, I'm in. I found a local dealer that got me into a cancellation, no price uplift, no funny business. Interestingly enough I spoke with a couple places, all of which are well aware of what's happening with this product. I went with the dealer that was closest and has a good reputation, he sold a bike in 10 minutes. Reputation pays I guess. BTW the shop is San Jose Yamaha, good folks, we know a lot of the same people. (yeah it's a plug)

The previous guys I am NOT giving the benefit of the doubt, but I won't mention their name, I just don't think I'll darken their door again. Anyway I am completely happy about this buy, never waited this long for a bike but it's the one. I tried to rationalise BMW, Triumph, KTM and just can't do it. This will actually be the 5th Yamaha I've owned in my life. I have yet to be disappointed.

I really appreciate this board also, I've learned a ton about the product and hope to continue membership for some time, perhaps I'll ride with some of you someday!

... Jeff

 

[colorider]

Congrats Jeff!!!! Sounds like you made the right decision at the right dealer!!!!