WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
I wonder if the stiffer rear spring will overload the ES preload adjustment motor?
I've started a conversation with Race Tech, they don't seem to have much information on the Super Tenere ES version. As Matt at Race Tech explains, if the bikes are pretty well suspended, they don't get much in the way of requests early on. On the other hand if a new bike is way off, they begin to hear about them as soon as they begin hitting the streets. I guess this is some testament that most folks aren't all that dissatisfied with the Super T's OEM ES suspension.Karl said:I guess I will find out soon, no one has any advice or seems to have done this on the ES.
I think if I only do the preload adjustments sitting on the centre stand, the pre-load should be manageable. I am marginally worried about running out of damping tho.
K
I think someone else posted some info about the linkage ratio being different. EDIT: While I was typing, Karl posted that it was he that originally pointed that out. In looking up the part numbers under the tab "rear arm suspension" it shows that there are different part numbers for "Arm 1" which are the dogbones and Arm Relay which is the pivot piece for the linkage. I am lookign at the parts on a 14 standard compared to a 14 ES ,parts # 11 and 12.tubebender said:I have to say this subject has been bothering me.
I find it real hard to believe that the ES version has a spring that has 55% less support then the standard model.
I mean, how is that possible? The bike is actually a few pounds heavier. The shock isn't magic, it just has a couple of motors to change preload and damping.
The linkage ratio hasn't changed.
I think there has got to be a error in the published figures.
I know for a fact the book on my 2012 was wrong because I actually measured the spring and found a 12% (less) difference.
I could be wrong but it just doesn't make sense to me.
120 miles? That's practically in your backyard! I'd be there in a heartbeat.WJBertrand said:Matt was very interested in the ES Tenere though, and promised to look into it and get back to me. If they haven't done anything yet they will need to borrow a bike for a week or so to do their development. I'm about 120 miles from Race Tech, so not super convenient for me. Anyone live close to Corona, CA that has an ES if need be?
Trouble is their hours and my hours and not there on Saturdays.Tupperware said:120 miles? That's practically in your backyard! I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Hi Karl,Karl said:So I did the spring upgrade today, everything went pretty soothly. The 2.5inch spring is pretty tight but works OK.
So rider sag of 83mm with full preload (2up plus luggage setting) is now:
70mm (1up setting)
65mm (1up with luggage setting)
56mm (2up setting)
I did not measure it at 2up plus luggage.
I cant get out to ride it yet, will do a proper write up then.
I followed Karl's example and fitted the 550 lb/in (96 N/mm) Eibach spring and have been pretty satisfied with the results. Ride quality is not degraded and the damper seems to be able to handle the stiffer spring without any problem. I'm using the middle +3 damper setting for most preload configurations. I was going back and forth in my head about fitting a 525 lb/in spring (91 N/mm) instead until I got around to checking sag with no luggage mounted and the preload set to one-up. I got about 2.1" or 28% of travel which is right in there with the general rule of thumb to shoot for 25-33% sag. At this point I'm probably going to leave it as is. Now I can use the preload setting that reflects the actual loading condition of the bike. With the OEM spring I was running one to two settings above the actual loading configuration, i.e. using the 2-up setting when I was running one up with only partially filled luggage. Filling the luggage fully had me using the 2-up + luggage setting.Rizzo said:I'm interested in the progress of this thread. How is the heavier spring working in the es? This is something I may have to consider. Although I'm losing more and more weight, I will never be a light guy. I usually go the Ohlins way with my bikes right away but, for some reason, I went with the es version of the Tenere. I'm wondering if I'll regret that decision as time goes on. Hopefully not as there are heavier riders that seem to be happy with the es but I'm a little spoiled when it comes to suspension. I like it set up for me.