Programming Multiple coded keys

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So I broke one of the spare keys for my 2013 Tenere - I purchased a replacement and was able to find instructions on programming the new key - however, when I program the new key the original key no longer works - so I am no further ahead - still only have a single spare key and would need to carry the red key and black key as spares! Dealer wants $50.00 to reprogram all keys so I know it can be done and I am just missing something!
So do you program multiple spares?
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In the automotive world most systems only have a capacity for a specified number of keys, very often just two. So if you program a new one, it deletes an old one.
 

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Don in Lodi said:
In the automotive world most systems only have a capacity for a specified number of keys, very often just two. So if you program a new one, it deletes an old one.
I concur, it's about ensuring security for insurance purposes. The dealer will have to de-code all the keys, thus making the broken one inoperable and recode the three others with new codes.
 

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Dogdaze said:
I concur, it's about ensuring security for insurance purposes. The dealer will have to de-code all the keys, thus making the broken one inoperable and recode the three others with new codes.
No need for the dealer. When the red key is used to program a new key, the remaining key has to be reprogrammed. See below



1. Check that the immobilizer system indicator light signals the standby mode.

2. Using the code re-registering key, turn the main swtich to 'ON', then 'OFF', and then remove the key within 5 seconds.

3. Insert the first standard key to be registered into the main switch, then turn the key to 'ON' within 5 seconds to activate the key registration mode.

Note: The existing standard key code is removed from the memory when the key registration mode is activated. When the key registration mode is activated, the immobilizer system indicator light flashes rapidly.

4. While the indicator light is flashing, turn the main switch 'OFF', remove the key, and within 5 seconds, insert the second standard key to be registered into the main switch.

Note: The immobilzer system indicator light stops flashing 5 seconds after the first standard key is registered, the registration mode is deactivated. If this occurs, the second standard key cannot be registered, and the above steps have to be repeated for both keys.

5. Turn the main switch to 'ON'.

Note: When the indicator light goes off, the registration is complete.

6. Check the engine can be started with both keys.
 

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you sure the super ten has a programmed key? i got a key at a dealer, had a locksmith cut it, put it in , hit the red button and vrrooomm i was gone
 

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toadady said:
you sure the super ten has a programmed key? i got a key at a dealer, had a locksmith cut it, put it in , hit the red button and vrrooomm i was gone
NA motorcycles (at leat S10) are sold without an immobilizer, the keys are embedded with a chip for the rest of the world.
 

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Dogdaze said:
NA motorcycles (at leat S10) are sold without an immobilizer, the keys are embedded with a chip for the rest of the world.
If NA is North America... I bought Yamaha key blanks and couldn't get the locksmith to cut them. I asked why and he said the aftermarket key was $6 cut. The Yamaha keys were $11 blank. My keys do not have a chip.
 

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Dogdaze said:
NA motorcycles (at leat S10) are sold without an immobilizer, the keys are embedded with a chip for the rest of the world.
Actually as I recall, it's just the US bikes that don't have the immobilizer. I do remember reading about Canadian bikes having them...
 

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AVGeek said:
Actually as I recall, it's just the US bikes that don't have the immobilizer. I do remember reading about Canadian bikes having them...
I always assumed North America did not include Canada, anything south of the 49th Parallel North. Sorry for any confusion.
 

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Dogdaze said:
I always assumed North America did not include Canada, anything south of the 49th Parallel North. Sorry for any confusion.
No worries...North America is Canada, USA, and Mexico. Everything south of Mexico and north of Colombia is Central or Latin America and everything else is South Amrica.
 

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Didn't know we were getting a Geography Lesson today, did'ja kiddies. ::025::
 

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Certain Canadian Yamaha bikes ( SuperTenere,FJR1300, R1 and a few others I believe)employ an imobilizer system with 2 chipped keys and a 3rd Red code re-registering key, D NOT LOOSE THIS RED KEY !! It's only US bikes that DO NOT have the imobilizer system and chipped keys.
I live in Canada and have both a 2006 FJR1300 and a 2014 SuperTenere , both have chipped keys, the on-board imobilizer system will NOT allow more that 2 chipped keys to be registered at any time , as soon as you register a 3rd key, it will automatically un-register the 1st key that was originally registered and so on, so if you lose the 2nd key that was originally registered, and register a new key,the system will automatically cancel that 1st key, you just have to re-register that 1st key to have 2 operational keys.
I personally don't like this system, it doesn't prevent bike theft, thieves will just toss the bike in a cube van and speed off in 30 seconds , then strip it for parts! It only prevents a drive away with a copied standard key, highly unlikely !
This system adds costs and huge risks of lost keys, if you lose all 3 keys , your screwed !, all new $50 keys,locks, imobilizer system, ECU, about $2500 repairs!!
 

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tomatocity said:
If NA is North America... I bought Yamaha key blanks and couldn't get the locksmith to cut them. I asked why and he said the aftermarket key was $6 cut. The Yamaha keys were $11 blank. My keys do not have a chip.
NA is North America, excluding Canada and Mexico. US bikes don't have chip keys. Your locksmith sucks, find another one. The hardware store cut my blanks for the Super Ten. (Ace). Any border line idiot can cut a non-chip key if you bring them the blank and an original key to use as the master.
 
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