OUCH!!

[GrahamD]

Posted by Goldie05 on ADV...

Pretty fair article really. Are you reading YAMAHA?

Anyway, that will buff out.. ;D

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycles/yamaha-super-tenere/

Cheers
Graham

 

[Venture]

Posted by Goldie05 on ADV...

Pretty fair article really. Are you reading YAMAHA?

Anyway, that will buff out.. ;D

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycles/yamaha-super-tenere/

Cheers
Graham

Tires still full? Check

Engine still runs? Check

However, might want to take the short way round and get some stuff fixed.

 

[toompine]

Super Tenere....Keeps on ticking

 

[ptfjjj]

Wow! sounds like that guy is lucky he was on a S10! I think those were OEM crash bars, too. Interesting that they bought it back from the insurance company to fix it back up, I would have been glad to have a new one......

 

[GrahamD]

Wow! sounds like that guy is lucky he was on a S10! I think those were OEM crash bars, too. Interesting that they bought it back from the insurance company to fix it back up, I would have been glad to have a new one......

Well maybe he has his eyes on those seriously wicked new Ohlins front forks...which I can't find anywhere on the interweb.

Cheers
Graham

 

[Checkswrecks]

Wow! sounds like that guy is lucky he was on a S10! I think those were OEM crash bars, too. Interesting that they bought it back from the insurance company to fix it back up, I would have been glad to have a new one......

Fess - up time on my part. The owner of WbW lives near me and he puts a LOT of effort into it after his real job. Rick's one of the good guys. I sometimes do articles & wrote the original draft of this one.


The bike itself made no difference to the rider injuries. He was badly hurt and was lucky to make it home where he will eventually be able to ride again. Other than the open face helmet, the riding gear and mediflight insurance paid off.


The crash bars were indeed oem. While they worked from a functional point, some of the other options on the market would have eliminated the need to replace the expensive plastic.


Note what is in the article about the bash plate protection and breaking right foot pegs.


Owning a small dealership and being a resourceful guy, the owner will have it back on the road for less than most people probably could. He seriously likes the bike that much. BTW, he's 5'8" and rides with the stock seat on the low setting, finding that he did not need the optional or aftermarket (not sure which) low seat that he bought.


Checks


ps - Putting a deposit on a July delivery bike today. Black!

 

[GrahamD]

Thanks for the reply Checks. Good to have you aboard!

Hope that bike comes together OK for him. Hate to see this kind of thing happen.

Cheers
Graham

 

[Chadx]

An interesting article. Quite the experience. Hope the guy heals up OK. I would be quite bummed out not only getting injured, but totaling a buddies bike. Ack!

One comment, of the authors, that struck me as odd:
"While the Super Tenere may not have some of the technology that BMW owners pay for, the motorcycle press and owners alike have been praising the bike."

Maybe he meant the Super Tenere has certain technology included in the price for which BMW owners have to pay extra. ABS (that works). Linked brakes. Full display computer. 2 levels of traction control plus off, two engine mapping modes (sport and touring), Liquid cooled, Fuel injected, Shaft drive (that, so far, hasn't burned up), lower center of gravity for lighter feel, etc. etc. One can order heated grips if you want. So Super Tenere come standard with everything, and more, that the BMWs have, or can have. What "technology" is missing? Telelever suspension? That is a road suspension that works horrible offroad (hence why the HP2 didn't have telelever front suspension. Switch adjustable suspension? I have no interest in it, but some might like it I suppose. Chromed exhaust pipe is the only other BMW option that I can think of and I'll take the included traction control over the chrome pipe, switch-adjustable suspension, and telelever suspension. Maybe those few things are the technology to which the author was referring. Would be interesting to know. Maybe I'll email and ask him. [edit: OK. Just emailed Bob. S., the author, to ask for clarification]

 

[Koinz]

Not that it's a big deal, but I did reply to the editor to point out the inacuracy.
Here's an excerpt of what I had replied - No bashing please.

"The article made the following statement; "While the Super Tenere may not have
some of the technology that BMW owners pay for, the motorcycle press and owners
alike have been praising the bike".


The main reason that attracted me to the Tenere was that fact that it exceeded
the technology that is available on the BMW GS at a lower cost that comes
standard on the Tenere and optional on the BMW.

I love the GS, but what's not to like on the Tenere. I think the Tenere is a
real winner and I'm glad it's coming to North America"

 

[Checkswrecks]

I answered with the following that is now in the responses, at the end of the article:


There was no insinuation that the Yamaha isn't a high-tech bike, because it has a number of high tech features, such as the traction control and ABS.What was meant was very close to what the one commenter guessed, in that the Yamaha doesn't incorporate some items like Telelever, Paralever, the standard immobilizer theft deterence, single-wire (CANBUS) electric system, and some of the BMW options.While those may be attractions to some, they can also be seen as negative points and deter others from wanting a bike that has those features. For example, the theft-deterent system can be seen as either keeping the bike from being stolen on the positve side, or as a potential failure point from the negative one. Do you like apples or bananas, Chevies or Fords?"


Having stated the above, I'm one of those who have now chosen the S10, because it does NOT have those features. While BMW builds a bike I respect, the Yam is a bit more straightforward in what I can do with it, parts will be cheaper, and easier to come across. It's one of the same reasons that I currently have a FJR, rather than a R1200RT.

 

[switchback]

Wonder how the aftermarket protection would have faired? I imagine even better.

 

[Jakeboy]

Glad the rider survived!

I don't know if I would be pushing the speed in Morocco, though!!

The article did say the rider was experienced on the R1. I wonder if a bit of throttle and counter steer may have helped him? The article didn't say what the TC setting was.

 

[Koinz]

I answered with the following that is now in the responses, at the end of the article:

Thanks for the clarification Checks. I too would prefer to stay away from manufacturer specific technology.

 

[3putt]

I hope the rider heals quickly.

I like Fords.

Judging from the picture of the curve, if the rider was at or close to the traction limits when entering that curve, nothing could have saved him. Maybe standing up and hitting the brakes, but I think most of us would just have let off the throttle and assumed a pucker position which would not have helped in the least.

Slow in fast out, be able to stop if there is trouble in the curve that you can not see on entering.

 

[pqsqac]

It seems to me the writer of this article wants a full roll cage around the bike he is riding. An impact like this guy took and the injuries he sustained I think the bike came out of it in decent shape. I feel very bad for the rider, he got busted up pretty good but I'm glad he got home safely and received the treatment he needed. I don't like reading about anybody going down forget the bike. That's what insurance is for.

 

[ptfjjj]

Slow in fast out, be able to stop if there is trouble in the curve that you can not see on entering.

+1

 

[colorider]

Slow in fast out, be able to stop if there is trouble in the curve that you can not see on entering.

Yes, basic stuff that virtually every safety or riding course teaches. Rule #1!

 

[Checkswrecks]

It seems to me the writer of this article wants a full roll cage around the bike he is riding.

No NHTSA roll-cage bikes implied. The article simply tried to point out the pros and cons of how the Yamaha options performed. The bars gave good protection down low, but didn't cover the expensive plastic bits higher, the way some of the aftermarket products do. Same with what is there about skid plates. As buyers, I'm sure that you and I are both interested in comparing the various products available.





I didn't meet the rider of the wrecked ST, but understand that he is a mature and quite experienced rider. The feeling I got was that he's kinda one of those "if he could lose it, so could most people." It's not typical to high side to the right in a right curve, so my guess without more road photos - and a guess is all it is - is that after a bit of a slide, he got into a fast fishtail and when the bike caught traction, up & over he went. As everybody else mentioned, I wish him well and yes the bike is just hardware that can be replaced.




Agree whole heartedly with the comments about slow in, fast out. But as some of the non-US forum members can probably agree, riding in other countries introduces hidden surprises far more often than we normally see in the US of A. Two examples: France uses a chip-seal repair on roads that is absolutely invisible. I've been half-way through a corner in the Pyrenees on a Honda 600 after a marvelous series of totally open switchbacks and suddenly lost all traction coming out of one. Even stopped and looking back, there was nothing to see. Looking close, on top of the road surface was a thin layer of loose crushed stone of the same type the road was made of. Something else that nearly got me from a traction standpoint on another trip was probably a dropping from some open-forage sheep eating grass next to the road.


Second example: The photo in my avatar is a gas station on the edge of the coastal road in Cameroon and the "pumps" are those bottles by the kid. Nice smooth straight dirt road that can be taken fast. Right up until the kid literally jumped in front of the Chevy Suburban (we weren't on bikes at the time), waving his arms. The only way we missed him was that our driver knew what was happening as a local and did NOT lock the brakes up. The kid twirled away like a prize bull fighter faster than I could turn to shoot another photo, as he was trying to bring in business. Even an experienced rider with a little fatigue would be easy to over-react and either go into the brush or lock up the brakes (assuming no ABS etc).


But without those places to explore, we probably wouldn't have the very types of folks who are on this forum.

 

[ptfjjj]

Yes ChecksWrecks, I would have to agree. Slow in fast out does not cover everything. I once crashed into a jeep while making a corner that I had made many times before, but this time, someone had dumped a load of loose dirt and gravel on the road and did not clean it up completely, so that nice traction that I had come to expect on this turn was not there! I might have regained control, but as luck would have it, there just happened to be a jeep going the opposite direction at just the right, or wrong, time. Good thing that I was wearing coveralls, gloves and a full face helmet. I walked away shaken up when I could have otherwise missed my high school graduation that night. Oh, and the frame on the bike was twisted like a pretzel, just like the wheels and the forks.