OEM Case Dimensions

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Does anyone have the meansurements for the OEM side cases?

I would love the liter size as well if someone wants to calculate that too. :) I would like to compare them size wise to the Zega Pro from touratech. Regardless of the lock issue, I seem to be leaning toward the OEM cases, so anyone who has experiance between the OEM cases and the others... please chime in.

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brianoakes said:
I would love the liter size as well if someone wants to calculate that too. :)
The volume is on Yamaha's web site, 769 in^3 left, 952 right.

I'm going OEM cases. Everybody seems to want bigger, heavier, more rugged - I want smaller, lighter, and more stylish. I think some of the ultra-duty armoring efforts folks make with adventure bikes these days can make them so heavy and bulky, tipovers and low-speed crashes become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

- Mark
 

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markjenn said:
The volume is on Yamaha's web site, 769 in^3 left, 952 right.
Wow - am I reading this right?

769ci = 12.6L and 952ci = 15.6L

Never realized the OEM bags were that small.
 

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I haven't actually put anything in mine yet, but the only thing I would put in my Givi's is rain suit, bike cover, some tools and miscellaneous. Clothes are typically strapped on the pillion seat, so the size of the cases aren't really that important as long as they hold the bare necessitites.
 

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Koinz said:
I haven't actually put anything in mine yet, but the only thing I would put in my Givi's is rain suit, bike cover, some tools and miscellaneous. Clothes are typically strapped on the pillion seat, so the size of the cases aren't really that important as long as they hold the bare necessitites.
I have the stock side cases with liners. The wife and I took a 2 night trip this past weekend. the liners and cases proved to be big enough for our needs. They worked out very well. Almost the same amount of room as my FJR cases with liners. So far I am very happy with them. I have had no problems with the latches, just push down on the lid to open/close while turning the key. Seems to seal good.
 

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chris76 said:
Whoa, whoa, wait! They are in fact 29 and 32 liters.
Yes, something must be screwed up on Yamaha's web site. Yamaha seems to be have been "specification challenged" on pannier capacity for some time now - I have the accessory info sheet they sent out some time ago with the GoPro offer and it says 32L per side, which obviously isn't completely correct either since the left bag has the exhaust cutout. Perhaps 29/32 is correct.

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markjenn said:
Perhaps 29/32 is correct.

- Mark
Yes, that sounds more like it!!!
 

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BTW, Yamaha has a new (at least to me) video up on their web site detailing how the bags work.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelvideo/651/1136/0/video.aspx

It's clear that Yamaha is trying to educate owners on how to use the bags without resorting to force with the relatively fragile locks/latches. The FJR has differently designed bags, but similar lock/latch frailty and fussiness, and while I've never had any issues with them, I do pay attention and am careful. I also use bag liners so I avoid taking the bags off/on the bike very often - schlepping relatively heavy hard bags into hotels every night where they get beat to hell has never made any sense to me.

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I just installed the OEM's last night (well mostly last night -- read a little further). I had my reservations about them, mostly the seemingly much smaller case on the exhaust side. Well, now that I've been handling them and have had a good look inside, it turns out to be somewhat of an optical illusion caused by the exterior black trim on the edge of the case-- when you look down inside the exhaust side bag, it has virtually the same dimensions as the right side case, with only a very small little ledge on the bottom of the interior for the exhaust cut-out, seriously!

On a side note for any of you who'll be installing the OEM cases yourself, you will need a Torx security bit for the two large mount kit bolts. I don't know the size off-hand, but it's a fairly large one -- I'll try to check size tonight if I get the time -- and you'll also need a size 10 Torx security bit for installing the lock cylinders. I would've been able to completely install the mount kit last night, but didn't have the large Torx security bit. Then, when I didn't have the small size 10 bit for the locks, I had to take another trip to the store to get those. Probably best to have them on hand before you dive in. Seems kind of cruel that Yamamamma wouldn't include them, but if they do, they didn't with mine...

You will also need some kind of bonding agent (they recommend Yamabond) to affix the rubber pads onto the mounts that are attached to the footpeg support assemblies. I didn't have anything else on-hand, so I used JB Weld. They don't mention rubber in their directions, but the JB weld website does say it will bond together any porous (such as rubber) and non-porous material (such as steel). Hope that'll do the trick (I'm kind of worried someone is gonna chime in and say "Ohmigod, you just melted your new motorcycle by using JB Weld on the luggage mount rubber!") but mostly just mentioning this so that you have some bonding agent on hand when you install your own sidecases.

EDIT: Thought I would add that I haven't found the locks to be too 'fiddly.' I can see where a heavy-handed, caveman type would have trouble with them, but a little touch and finesse goes a long way with the locks. Sorry if I've offended any cavemen out there >:D. I would also add that installing the lock cylinder helps a great deal in understanding how they work, but, again this is only my experience, YMMV.
 

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Scoobynut said:
I just installed the OEM's last night (well mostly last night -- read a little further). I had my reservations about them, mostly the seemingly much smaller case on the exhaust side. Well, now that I've been handling them and have had a good look inside, it turns out to be somewhat of an optical illusion caused by the exterior black trim on the edge of the case-- when you look down inside the exhaust side bag, it has virtually the same dimensions as the right side case, with only a very small little ledge on the bottom of the interior for the exhaust cut-out, seriously!

On a side note for any of you who'll be installing the OEM cases yourself, you will need a Torx security bit for the two large mount kit bolts. I don't know the size off-hand, but it's a fairly large one -- I'll try to check size tonight if I get the time -- and you'll also need a size 10 Torx security bit for installing the lock cylinders. I would've been able to completely install the mount kit last night, but didn't have the large Torx security bit. Then, when I didn't have the small size 10 bit for the locks, I had to take another trip to the store to get those. Probably best to have them on hand before you dive in. Seems kind of cruel that Yamamamma wouldn't include them, but if they do, they didn't with mine...

You will also need some kind of bonding agent (they recommend Yamabond) to affix the rubber pads onto the mounts that are attached to the footpeg support assemblies. I didn't have anything else on-hand, so I used JB Weld. They don't mention rubber in their directions, but the JB weld website does say it will bond together any porous (such as rubber) and non-porous material (such as steel). Hope that'll do the trick (I'm kind of worried someone is gonna chime in and say "Ohmigod, you just melted your new motorcycle by using JB Weld on the luggage mount rubber!") but mostly just mentioning this so that you have some bonding agent on hand when you install your own sidecases.
The large security bit a a T50, but a T45 will work just fine. You can get a set of these at Harbor Junk, but it comes with the T45 and the T50.

Tony
 

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ColoRider said:
Wow - am I reading this right?

769ci = 12.6L and 952ci = 15.6L

Never realized the OEM bags were that small.
I have a set of the Cee Bailey inner bag liners for the R150GS Adventure and they are almost identical in size to the Yamaha case. It looks like perhaps Yamaha copied their dimensions. That bike (GS1150ADV) would carry a crapload of stuff. I had a guy go with us onetime on one of those and I swear he has his bowling ball and rock collection in those things!

Tony
 

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lotecredneck said:
The large security bit a a T50, but a T45 will work just fine. You can get a set of these at Harbor Junk, but it comes with the T45 and the T50.

Tony
Thanks for confirming that Tony; I also checked tonight and the bit I bought is indeed a T50. Out here in the boonies I couldn't find one anywhere, but the guy at carquest called the Matco tool truck and found out where he was, so I chased him down and bought it right out of his van. ???
 

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I don't know if I've seen any photos of a Raven bike with the OEM cases, so here are a couple of photos after installing them:



 

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For the ones who did not have yamabond on hand to install the rubber pads on the lower mounts. I used black RTV adhesive on mine. Same stuff that holds the engine case protectors on a DRZ400. I also have used this product to hold the Givi topcase grommets in place. We all know those like to stick to the bottom of the topcase and go missing.
 

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chris76 said:
Whoa, whoa, wait! They are in fact 29 and 32 liters.
It's a typo, they dropped the one off the front of each number. 1769 cubic inches and 1952 cubic inches. I wonder who gets knocked back a pay grade for that one, LOL.
 

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Scoobynut said:
I don't know if I've seen any photos of a Raven bike with the OEM cases, so here are a couple of photos after installing them:



Good looking! Just like they were made for the motorcycle. The Raven Super Tenere is starting to grow on me.
 

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OEM Top Case

I am going through all of the OEM case boxes to get ready for the install. I see all the stuff in the kit for mounting the side cases but don't see anything regarding mounting the top case. Is it just a no brainer with existing hardware or am I missing a mounting kit? Thanks.
 

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Re: OEM Top Case

newventurer said:
I am going through all of the OEM case boxes to get ready for the install. I see all the stuff in the kit for mounting the side cases but don't see anything regarding mounting the top case. Is it just a no brainer with existing hardware or am I missing a mounting kit? Thanks.
You remove the three button head screws the attach the silver rack, remove the rack and replace the two long screws. That exposes the mounting bosses for the top case. I plan to get a shorter M8 button head screw to "fill" the third hole that is closest to the rear seat.

HTH,
 
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