Number of UK bikes
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the HUBB venue is about as near to the centre of the UK as you can getviewdvb said:
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I've always wanted to find a "no snoring" campground but this HUBB has a "no talking" campground. Is this for those on a religious retreat or to avoid the GS bragging crowd?
::025:: ::025:: ::025:: ::025:: ::025::nondairycreamer said:
Grumpy
Getting old is not for wimps
My other two bikes also look thin on the ground, only 200 FJR as' and 1202 XJR 1300 ::022:: ::001::
I wondered too. Might be one where you can camp safe in the knowledge your neighbours wont be constantly popping round for a chat or a jump start (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) and ruin your read of a good book. Perhaps not the spot for a loud pipe either.nondairycreamer said:
Number of S10s in dealers (not registered) could be the same over again. Recently dusted down my old XT350 so I could keep it slow while accompanying a new learner in the family. Best year in a long time is 36. That's a lot of bikes gone to scrap or lost in fields.
june 13th 14th 15th, peak district ? plenty of campsites, and nice roads,
or wales stay near crossgates maybe rhayadar, nice little pubs and a few campsites and b&bs. great roads around elan valley. breath taking views, ??????
we're adventure bike riders, it could anywhere, just makes it more fun
or wales stay near crossgates maybe rhayadar, nice little pubs and a few campsites and b&bs. great roads around elan valley. breath taking views, ??????
we're adventure bike riders, it could anywhere, just makes it more fun
yea a meet would be good ..but regarding uk numbers of the S10 , i blame yamaha themselves for this. yamaha always do the same thing ..they bring out a brilliant product then put a stupid price tag on them , yes yamaha has dropped the price "now" but they have missed the boat as folks seem to have lost interest in the tenere , they did the same thing with a jet ski a while ago . they brought out brand new ski that was just miles in front of anything else on the market "but" it came in at a crazy price & it just didnt sell ..the 660 tenere another great bike "but" not selling and at over £7,000 is there any wonder ? . the S10 is as we know a great bike with a reliable & proven design that other makes seem to have lost ::008:: but there should a lot more on the road and not in the dealers showrooms .
Didg
Member
My vote is for the hub, perhaps we could do a poll?
On a side note, I saw a sticker on the web (can't remember where) that said "OFFICIAL BMW SUPPORT VEHICLE". Would be great to have on yer bike at the hub ;D
On a side note, I saw a sticker on the web (can't remember where) that said "OFFICIAL BMW SUPPORT VEHICLE". Would be great to have on yer bike at the hub ;D
They actually got a lot of press coverage when the bike was new, it was on the front of many mags, and although the reviews were never great (anything with less than 125BHP / 150MPH top speed will always get slated by the UK press) and comparisons always put it behind the GS it was never that far behind the GS of the time and many would have been drawn by the Yamaha which at the time was considered close to the BMW / KTM - if the price had been right many would have possibly gone for a reliable "Jap GS"cakeboy said:
Since then BMW and KTM have moved the goalposts and Honda / Kawasaki / Suzuki have all added new bikes into the sector, it should have been priced about the same as a base GS at launch (@£11k instead of £13k it started at - Fully loaded GS money!) and would have looked great value with ABS / Traction Control thrown in for "free" over the BMW.
Being priced more expensive than the V4 Honda shows how silly Yamaha's UK pricing is, anyone would think they don't want to sell bikes ::010::
viewdvb
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You're right about lots in dealers' showrooms, probably because Yamaha lean on them to take one in stock even when they had to almost give away the last one. Remember that, as far as Yamaha are concerned, sold to a dealer means SOLD even if it stays on the showroom floor - it makes no financial difference to Yamaha. The upside is that most dealers heavily discount S10s to get them off the floor. On the other hand, it doesn't do a lot of good to resale prices.
I did have the opportunity to discuss Yamaha's UK pricing hikes in the last few years (say 2008 onwards) with a Sales Executive and his explanation was that, being one of the smaller manufacturers, they were less able to absorb world increases in raw material prices and other effects of the recession so were forced to increase their prices sooner than the others. While it is true that the prices from other manufacturers have somewhat caught up, his story is blown by the fact that they have now reduced the prices again, current recession notwithstanding. Seems like a case of "keep the profit margins up" suddenly tempered by the realisation that there aren't ANY profits if you don't sell anything.
I can't see the point in "flash-mobbing" a BMW event. Everybody's free to make their choices of ride and I can't see why you'd want to be so confrontational. You're never going to convince them that they've made a poor decision about their ride, even if it is self-evident to us. I like the NEC Museum idea better.
I did have the opportunity to discuss Yamaha's UK pricing hikes in the last few years (say 2008 onwards) with a Sales Executive and his explanation was that, being one of the smaller manufacturers, they were less able to absorb world increases in raw material prices and other effects of the recession so were forced to increase their prices sooner than the others. While it is true that the prices from other manufacturers have somewhat caught up, his story is blown by the fact that they have now reduced the prices again, current recession notwithstanding. Seems like a case of "keep the profit margins up" suddenly tempered by the realisation that there aren't ANY profits if you don't sell anything.
I can't see the point in "flash-mobbing" a BMW event. Everybody's free to make their choices of ride and I can't see why you'd want to be so confrontational. You're never going to convince them that they've made a poor decision about their ride, even if it is self-evident to us. I like the NEC Museum idea better.
Didg
Member
From their web site
HUBB UK - THE PREMIER OVERLAND ADVENTURE TRAVEL EVENT FOR MOTORCYCLISTS, CYCLISTS, AND DRIVERS OF 4X4 & OTHER EXPEDITION VEHICLES
It's not a BMW event. It looks like a very interesting event for anyone who's into adventure travel. That's why I'm going to it.
It would also be a good place for S10 owners to meet for the above reasons, nothing more.
Personally I have no intention of preaching to or being confrontational to BMW owners.
I'm sure any comments made about BMW's and their owners is just light hearted, tongue in cheek humour.
HUBB UK - THE PREMIER OVERLAND ADVENTURE TRAVEL EVENT FOR MOTORCYCLISTS, CYCLISTS, AND DRIVERS OF 4X4 & OTHER EXPEDITION VEHICLES
It's not a BMW event. It looks like a very interesting event for anyone who's into adventure travel. That's why I'm going to it.
It would also be a good place for S10 owners to meet for the above reasons, nothing more.
Personally I have no intention of preaching to or being confrontational to BMW owners.
I'm sure any comments made about BMW's and their owners is just light hearted, tongue in cheek humour.
Hi,
I know Sam Manicom fairly well, and as well as writing great books about his travels he is also part of the organising team for the UK HUBB events. Do we want to do anything in particular for S10 owners at the next event? I can see what the options are. Could just be informal, of course, rather than an event within an event.
What do you reckon?
Cheers,
Matt
I know Sam Manicom fairly well, and as well as writing great books about his travels he is also part of the organising team for the UK HUBB events. Do we want to do anything in particular for S10 owners at the next event? I can see what the options are. Could just be informal, of course, rather than an event within an event.
What do you reckon?
Cheers,
Matt
bikerbampi
New Member
Me too if the date suits. ::013::
BMW and KTM may have "moved the goal post". But in what direction?
I suspect it's in the direction that many (most) potential buyers prefer. But it is in exactly the opposite direction for me. I'm still stuck in the original authentic GSA Adventure genre. Not so much the recent sport bike in disguise approach.
An adventure bike with a steering damper? Hmmmm. Different adventure.
I suspect it's in the direction that many (most) potential buyers prefer. But it is in exactly the opposite direction for me. I'm still stuck in the original authentic GSA Adventure genre. Not so much the recent sport bike in disguise approach.
An adventure bike with a steering damper? Hmmmm. Different adventure.
MoFarkle
Where were going, we don't need roads...
I have a big interest in touring and adventure travel and well aware that the flash-mob at the HUBB event was just a joke. I'm on the fence about attending the event but if it included meeting up and putting faces to member names and chatting to other S10'ers it'd probably swing my decision towards buying a ticket.